I want to preface my post by saying I am NOT looking to get into a political debate/argument about right wingers/left wingers or any wingers..I am seriously wanting opinions about how to answer these questions as I am having these or similar questions asked of me and I honestly am not sure how to respond other that citing CDC/FDA information.
First, if masks/lockdowns are as effective as some would have people believe, what are places like California and NY, where some of the strictest mask/lockdown restriction were/are, in place having such terrible times with the virus much more than other places that had little or no mask/lockdown requirements?
Secondly, some political and/or social events/protests have been deemed "super spreader" while others have been ignored by experts. It seems those most criticized were Republican/Republican leaning while those ignored/excused were Democratic/Democratic leaning.
Again, I am not looking for political/social arguments, just a way to better answer the questions when asked than I am doing now.
I read it in a magazine in 1980. I was an LVN working in ICU, taking prerequisites, attending PTA and other school events at my highschool kid's school, and, of course reading SF. Decades before that my musician Dad played in the band at a science fiction convention in San Jose. We got to hear Asimov and Harlan Ellison argue! While Dad played music I went to the hotel coffee shop and ordered a scoop of ice cream. Isaac Asimov then sat in the booth behind me! I didn't have the nerve at age 17 to turn around and meet him. Years later someone who knew him told me he enjoyed reciting limericks for young girls and women.
From childhood on I read as much Asimov as I could fine. His paperback "The Human Body" had most of when was known about anatomy and physiology in the 1950s. It is funny, full of word play.
Haven't read The Human Body but I just Amazoned it. Thanks.
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The Biden-Harris plan to beat COVID-19
The American people deserve an urgent, robust, and professional response to the growing public health and economic crisis caused by the coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak. President Biden believes that the federal government must act swiftly and aggressively to help protect and support our families, small businesses, first responders, and caregivers essential to help us face this challenge, those who are most vulnerable to health and economic impacts, and our broader communities – not to blame others or bail out corporations.
The Biden-Harris administration will always:
Listen to science
Ensure public health decisions are informed by public health professionals
Promote trust, transparency, common purpose, and accountability in our government
President Biden and Vice President Harris have a seven-point plan to beat COVID-19.
Ensure all Americans have access to regular, reliable, and free testing.
Double the number of drive-through testing sites.
Invest in next-generation testing, including at home tests and instant tests, so we can scale up our testing capacity by orders of magnitude.
Stand up a Pandemic Testing Board like Roosevelt’s War Production Board. It’s how we produced tanks, planes, uniforms, and supplies in record time, and it’s how we will produce and distribute tens of millions of tests.
Establish a U.S. Public Health Jobs Corps to mobilize at least 100,000 Americans across the country with support from trusted local organizations in communities most at risk to perform culturally competent approaches to contact tracing and protecting at-risk populations.
Fix personal protective equipment (PPE) problems for good.
President Biden is taking responsibility and giving states, cities, tribes, and territories the critical supplies they need.
Fully use the Defense Production Act to ramp up production of masks, face shields, and other PPE so that the national supply of personal protective equipment exceeds demand and our stores and stockpiles — especially in hard-hit areas that serve disproportionately vulnerable populations — are fully replenished.
Build immediately toward a future, flexible American-sourced and manufactured capability to ensure we are not dependent on other countries in a crisis.
Provide clear, consistent, evidence-based guidance for how communities should navigate the pandemic – and the resources for schools, small businesses, and families to make it through.
Social distancing is not a light switch. It is a dial. President Biden will direct the CDC to provide specific evidence-based guidance for how to turn the dial up or down relative to the level of risk and degree of viral spread in a community, including when to open or close certain businesses, bars, restaurants, and other spaces; when to open or close schools, and what steps they need to take to make classrooms and facilities safe; appropriate restrictions on size of gatherings; when to issue stay-at-home restrictions.
Establish a renewable fund for state and local governments to help prevent budget shortfalls, which may cause states to face steep cuts to teachers and first responders.
Call on Congress to pass an emergency package to ensure schools have the additional resources they need to adapt effectively to COVID-19.
Provide a “restart package” that helps small businesses cover the costs of operating safely, including things like plexiglass and PPE...
"President Joe Biden was slammed on Friday after stating during a press conference that there was nothing his administration could do to change the course of the pandemic over the next several months, which comes after he campaigned on ending the pandemic."
I do appreciate his honesty. It's a bit refreshing. He's not sugar coating the truth. Most likely he's basing it on science. The scientists predicted the surge we are in now and they probably can predict the next couple of months. Much better than Trump's idea that it's not a big deal and one day soon will disappear. When did he say that? Last March?
I will say that while we may be giving 1 million a day now without a strong commitment to continue it probably would not be sustained. I appreciate he he's put pressure on his administration to make it happen.
But really after nearly a year is educating the public, and asking them to wear masks and social distance really going to change any outcomes? Doubtful Biden can do anything about that further. Unless you live under a rock, you know what to do. Those of us that are doing it will remain diligent, the rest will continue to not be diligent and infect others until the numbers finally drop.
I said in another post somewhere Biden really can't do much. We as a public can, but we're not.
I know I sound pessimistic but it's reality. Biden I'm sure knows this. But hey, I'll say something positive. Florida fell to 9,000 cases yesterday and 8,000 the day before. First time below 10,000 in a good while.
"President Joe Biden was slammed on Friday after stating during a press conference that there was nothing his administration could do to change the course of the pandemic over the next several months, which comes after he campaigned on ending the pandemic."
I find it amazing that is news to any intelligent person and that Biden is to blame for any of this?
I find it reassuring that the republicans remain true to form, continuing to exhibit the idiocy that is expected, otherwise one would have to conclude that they really are just evil. At least the ignorance isn't faked and all their recent horrendous mistakes weren't deliberate.
It's so refreshing to have someone tell the truth and relate the hard facts so we can be prepared. But as Tweety so rightly says, the more intelligent people will continue to be cautious, educated and better able to survive. Apparently the military experience that republicans so admire doesn't encompass preparedness or planning? Maybe it's an entirely unique way to deal with situations that we will have to learn about in the future, like 'herd immunity'?
LOL....it seems a few of you are forgetting, and ignoring the part of the article that reminds everyone that he campaigned hard on that he COULD do more. That's why he was being slammed. And, if you read the tweets in the article, he was being slammed. That wasnt spin.
Oh, his honesty is refreshing. I guess he wasnt being honest before, then. Or, maybe he was just naive. Was he being honest when he said his administration was starting from zero on a vaccine distribution plan? Fauci says no.
LOL....it seems a few of you are forgetting, and ignoring the part of the article that reminds everyone that he campaigned hard on that he COULD do more. That's why he was being slammed. And, if you read the tweets in the article, he was being slammed. That wasnt spin.
Oh, his honesty is refreshing. I guess he wasnt being honest before, then. Or, maybe he was just naive.
Thanks for the chuckle.
I think he was being naive. He just couldn't conceive that the administration hadn't really done anything in such dire circumstances for the country. Like everyone else we all thought there surely has to be at least a rudimentary plan and stocks of the vaccine. Who would possibly know that such incompetence would exist at such a high level, even for a Trump organization?
LOL....it seems a few of you are forgetting, and ignoring the part of the article that reminds everyone that he campaigned hard on that he COULD do more.
Oh, his honesty is refreshing. I guess he wasnt being honest before, then. Or, maybe he was just naive.
Thanks for the chuckle.
You're welcome.
Fair enough because Biden did campaign to "beat covid and get our country back on track" and perhaps he should be mocked for clarifying what really is common sense that it isn't going to happen in two months.
You also seem to be looking at only the surface and think he's only extending what Trump is doing and you're not taking a deeper dive into what is different about Biden even though there were several links provided to give some insight.
Still, I don't have much hope that even though Biden is more science focused and will be more helpful than Trump that things will get better, because generally the public is stupid about it all and in general poor health a bad combination.
3 minutes ago, Curious1997 said:
I think he was being naive. He just couldn't conceive that the administration hadn't really done anything in such dire circumstances for the country. Like everyone else we all thought there surely has to be at least a rudimentary plan and stocks of the vaccine. Who would possibly know that such incompetence would exist at such a high level, even for a Trump organization?
When it was revealed that the stockpiles were a lie and that there was no real plan for the continuation of the pandemic most people I heard say "I'm not surprised". This is likely one of the reasons Trump didn't cooperate with the transition. Biden probably isn't surprised either by what he found.
Hejust couldn't conceive that the administration hadn't really done anything in such dire circumstances for the country.
Fauci himself said that Biden's claim that the past administration didn't have a plan was false. And, in inauguration day we were already at Biden's goal of 1 million doses a day.
I'm not sure what you're speaking of when you say the past administration "hadnt really done anything ".
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49 minutes ago, Beerman said:
Fauci himself said that Biden's claim that the past administration didn't have a plan was false. And, in inauguration day we were already at Biden's goal of 1 million doses a day.
I'm not sure what you're speaking of when you say the past administration "hadnt really done anything ".
We're accustomed to Trump supporters not understanding the scope of his failure relative to the pandemic. Trump's team didn't have a plan for vaccination of citizens at large. Once the easy vaccines were administered in health care settings, Trump had no plan.
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Yeah, I have a dream too Good luck and let us know how it goes.