Okay, I fully expect to be slammed for this. What do all these posts about gaming the system to get early results say about the character of some of the new grads/nurse candidates? One of the prime requisites of being a nurse is good judgement. Boasting about or encouraging fraudulent behavior by using inaccurate or inadequate credit card information to get test results hours or days quicker does not speak well of one's judgement and maturity. Is this what we accept from our colleagues?
It may be harsh but I think this is a matter of integrity. I understand impatience very well, I understand wanting to know if all the work of school paid off, what I don't understand is how easily one can ignore the lessons of integrity and professionalism.
If one can lie to a faceless testing company how one respond when faced with a potential life threatening situation that requires, patience, integrity, and maturity. It's a slippery slope, a little harmless deception here may reveal character issues that come to light when real harm may be caused.
So, slam me, flame me, whatever, or I hope some will agree with me.
NOW you are. But did you not post as a CNA? You say 2+ years of CNA experience, yet a new nurse. You've been a member for 2+ years. I'm no math expert, but....
Also, I don't think many CNAs are catching feelings about the pvt and definitely aren't being judgy about it.
Except there's this one tiny thing all of you are forgetting. Those of you who are getting charged the $200 and finding out you actually passed ( which seems to be happening more often) and are planning on having the charges reversed by your bank what exactly are you telling the bank? That the charge is fraudulent? Because last I checked they don't reverse the charges just because you changed your mind. So are you claiming PV illegally charged your card? How is that ethical and how does that not harm PV?
I haven't been talking about that at all, I not arguing about trying to get a $200 charge reversed. I'm talking about using a gift card with a low fund so you never get charged in the first place. But lets say you do try to get the charge reversed, how would Pearson Vue be harmed? What would Pearson Vue lose if the bank reversed the charge? You would get the money back and Pearson Vue has one less registration and test to administer.
By using a gift card with insufficient fund you avoid the possibility of Pearson Vue charging you and having to reverse the charge.
I haven't been talking about that at all, I not arguing about trying to get a $200 charge reversed. I'm talking about using a gift card with a low fund so you never get charged in the first place. But lets say you do try to get the charge reversed, how would Pearson Vue be harmed? What would Pearson Vue lose if the bank reversed the charge? You would get the money back and Pearson Vue has one less registration and test to administer.
By using a gift card with insufficient fund you avoid the possibility of Pearson Vue charging you and having to reverse the charge.
I wasn't speaking to you specifically my friend except you did ask what harm could come. However, there are those who were talking about reversing the charges. And the harm to PV is that in order to reverse the charges you will have to allege that it was fraudulent in the first place. Don't you think if that happens enough to them there just might be some consequences for the business? Basically I believe there is a legal term for it and I think it's slander. And I bet they have more lawyers than any of us do.
Do you agree that it would be wrong to tell a credit card company that PV applied fraudulent charges to your account in order to get them reversed?
I wasn't speaking to you specifically my friend except you did ask what harm could come. However, there are those who were talking about reversing the charges. And the harm to PV is that in order to reverse the charges you will have to allege that it was fraudulent in the first place. Don't you think if that happens enough to them there just might be some consequences for the business? Basically I believe there is a legal term for it and I think it's slander. And I bet they have more lawyers than any of us do.
Do you agree that it would be wrong to tell a credit card company that PV applied fraudulent charges to your account in order to get them reversed?
You quoted me that's why I responded. I'm not arguing with the idea that lying to get a charge reversed can be seen as immoral or wrong. If you use a card with insufficient funds then a charge would never go through so this problem wouldn't happen.
You quoted me that's why I responded. I'm not arguing with the idea that lying to get a charge reversed can be seen as immoral. If you use a card with insufficient funds then a charge would never go through so this problem wouldn't happen.
"Can be seen as immoral"??? I don't think there should be any question that it IS immoral. And yes using a gift card would certainly eliminate the need to lie but that isn't what's happening. Many people are using valid cards but changing the expiration date. Some of those charges are going through. Where do we draw the line?
"Can be seen as immoral"??? I don't think there should be any question that it IS immoral. And yes using a gift card would certainly eliminate the need to lie but that isn't what's happening. Many people are using valid cards but changing the expiration date. Some of those charges are going through. Where do we draw the line?
I say "can be" because there are lots of opinions and morality is an opinion. This entire post started because the OP felt that using a gift card or card with inadequate funds meant a nurse has less integrity.
I say "can be" because there are lots of opinions and morality is an opinion. This entire post started because the OP felt that using a gift card or card with inadequate funds meant a nurse has less integrity.
Why are you getting personal, is my answer going to change the validity of my argument? I haven't asked any questions that directly address anyone in particular.
Once again, I just have to say I'm flabbergasted that so many don't seem to know right from wrong.
I feel the same way when some people throw their cig butts out of their car window thinking Earth is their personal ash tray. I feel that it's wrong but others do not. Just sayin'
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Also, I don't think many CNAs are catching feelings about the pvt and definitely aren't being judgy about it.