there are so many rumors that come out of manila on a daily basis, that i am going to take the time to post this, so please take the time to read it. it is crazy with the amount of pms and e-mails that i get because no one bothers to do any reading first, and relies only on the rumors floating around the country.
1. the us government doe not require that you pass the local exam for immigration purposes.
2. most states do not require that you take the local exam for licensure.
3. cgfns exam requires that you take and pass the local exam, but most states no longer require the exam.
4. if you are not already in final process of waiting for the embassy interview, there will not be any of the 50,000 visas available for you, the cut-off date tentatively for october is for the actual visa, not for when your petition was submitted. the visa numbers are counted noly when they are actually issued, not any time before that.
5. if immigration requires that you take the english exams, then they are not waived for you if a state requires them.
6. most states that have requirements want the toefl exam and they do not accept the ielts series. you will need to pass the toefl exam before you will be permitted to sit for an exam.
7. if you are in the us on a tourist visa, there is no automatic extension granted to you if you pass the nclex exam. and applying for any type of extension on that visa, will most likely get you sent home. it is extremely difficult to get an extension, and if they deny it, you will have no choice but to leave the country, even if you get a job offer. the attorneys that are telling you otherwise are only interested in collecting their fee from you, it makes no difference what happens to you as long as they file that petition for you.and they are not doing it for free.
8. do not let your visa fall out of status, no matter what your firends tell you. it is grounds for deportation if immigration so decides. and no return for ten years.
any questions concerning this needs to get posted on the international forum, not on this forum. i am posting this here, since so many of you are continuing to ask the same questions over and over again without reading first.
please take the time to read "thr primer" that is at the top of the international forum before you consider posting.
tagalog is not permitted in any post, and will be deleted. english is the only language that is to be used.
I guess as history has been known to show that a scandal uncovered is evidence of a prolonged problem. Its blatently evident that the PNA has not got there house in order and nurses are suffering.
I guess people should make their voices heard should other nurses future be in jeopardy.Clearly what could be evident with the above scandal is your goverment involvement. Maybe they could have pulled the plug on nurses migrating to the USA( just my conspiracy theory on things) by throwing a cheating caviat in all of this.
If i was a USA recruiter i would take note of this situation and proceed with great caution in employing nurses from the Phillipines.An orginisation with a tainted reputation( such as the PNA) will have to work double hard to regain international respect. No matter how many local laws are passed to rectify the situation. The stakes in nursing are very high in western countries especially in the UK,USA AUSTARALIA NEW ZEALAND and SOUTH AFRICA etc....litigation being one of them
We employ an adaptaion program system in the UK where foreign graduates have to undergo a six month scrutiny of proficiency in all areas especially language skills. I would be a great advocate of this.Passing an nclex exam is just the start. Cultural work adaptation takes place over a sustainable long period
I am saying these words and hope nurses het a fair share in the USA originating from the phillipines.
I guess as history has been known to show that a scandal uncovered is evidence of a prolonged problem. Its blatently evident that the PNA has not got there house in order and nurses are suffering.
I guess people should make their voices heard should other nurses future be in jeopardy.Clearly what could be evident with the above scandal is your goverment involvement. Maybe they could have pulled the plug on nurses migrating to the USA( just my conspiracy theory on things) by throwing a cheating caviat in all of this.
If i was a USA recruiter i would take note of this situation and proceed with great caution in employing nurses from the Phillipines.An orginisation with a tainted reputation( such as the PNA) will have to work double hard to regain international respect. No matter how many local laws are passed to rectify the situation. The stakes in nursing are very high in western countries especially in the UK,USA AUSTARALIA NEW ZEALAND and SOUTH AFRICA etc....litigation being one of them
We employ an adaptaion program system in the UK where foreign graduates have to undergo a six month scrutiny of proficiency in all areas especially language skills. I would be a great advocate of this.Passing an nclex exam is just the start. Cultural work adaptation takes place over a sustainable long period
I am saying these words and hope nurses het a fair share in the USA originating from the phillipines.
IS there any new news about the retrogression?? i just had my application with the USCIS, and im really worried that i will spend a lot more years here in PI due to the retro. will anyone update me about this? thanks a lot!
IS there any new news about the retrogression?? i just had my application with the USCIS, and im really worried that i will spend a lot more years here in PI due to the retro. will anyone update me about this? thanks a lot!
Sooner or later there will be a retrogression because the number of visas released last year are drying up. It is best to prepare yourself by having everyhting at hand and when the retrogession is lifted up if there is one then all you have to do is for the interview.
Immigration ultimately will just require you the VisaScreen Certificate so they won't actually meddle into telling you which English exam to take (take which one you feel confident and comfortable). For PTs you must take TOEFL and TSE, IELTS is yet to be considered for you.
Eventhough our nurses take the NLE again, it might not be sufficient to redeem Philippines' regulatory bureaus' credibility.....So re-take will not guarantee that NCLEX-RN will be given here. The Board of Nurse Examiners and the Commission for the NCLEX-RN exam are looking into more than one aspect including the security of the country (terrorism will take part on this also not just security from leakage).....
All we can do is hope that they consider Philippines to save a lot of money with airfare (but of course you must add $150 plus VAT for international scheduling fee).....
For the June Passers, I know it must be hard to agree with the re-take especially when you passed fairly and on your own effort (those who self-studied)..... although you know yourselves very well, you must prove it. And if taking the exam again is the only way to do just that... then BE IT....
GOOD-LUCK to all of you.... You passed it once, You'll pass it again. Just hope that they let the flunkers take it again so we can have everyone on board and happy. :)
It is going to be some time before the Philippines will again be even considered for holding of the NCLEX-RN exam. It was not approved from the start with the first evaluation, and now with all of the leakage coming out and the documented cheating issues, this time it has been denied again.
Right now, terrorism is the furthest from their minds. When you have issues of diplomas being bought, and nurses going thru programs and never attending any clinical labs and yet getting a licenses, it makes you really want to reconsider things.
And unfortunately, I have worked with three nurses fairly recently that did just that. It is well known over here. Even CGFNS has come out with major statements about it in its handbook for the VSC, and that was just added recently, it is on page 14 for those of you that wish to look at it.
actually it has much to do with the nle exam, if you really read the article, at least the one that i read.
first, there was the cheating issues, then the pass rate of only less than 45% on the actual exam. that is the lowest that i have ever seen from there and that is what she is worried about. there are nurses that i have seen make it thru the exams, but never did any clinical training at the bedside when they were in school. and yes, sorry to say that they really exist. and diplomas have been bought.
next, you are going to see states not accept those that took the exam, arkansas has already started and i expect more to follow.
what i know about arkansas. is that arkansas board of nursing was no longer accepting filipino nurses way way back, because of tha bad reputation of some nurses before, because they are not following what is on the contract . . ..so it is not true that arkansas is not accepting because of the nursing licensure exam issue, it has nothing to do with it! as a matter of fact i received an email:::::
3. i also learned from miss fields that a big hospital in little rock, hadrecently started hiring from the philippines. this is good news contraryto what i told you because, hospitals had refused to hire nurses becauseof bad experience in the past. well, my point is, it is a blessing forarkansas hospitals to open its door of opportunities to nurses from thephilippines.so thats very clear, that all the rumors about arkansas as said by some are false
what i know about arkansas. is that arkansas board of nursing was no longer accepting filipino nurses way way back, because of tha bad reputation of some nurses before, because they are not following what is on the contract . . ..so it is not true that arkansas is not accepting because of the nursing licensure exam issue, it has nothing to do with it! as a matter of fact i received an email:::::
3. i also learned from miss fields that a big hospital in little rock, hadrecently started hiring from the philippines. this is good news contraryto what i told you because, hospitals had refused to hire nurses becauseof bad experience in the past. well, my point is, it is a blessing forarkansas hospitals to open its door of opportunities to nurses from thephilippines.so thats very clear, that all the rumors about arkansas as said by some are false
sorry, but it was posted in the philippine news that is published in the us. and it had nothing to do with any type of bad reputation, but with the exam from this summer.
you need to get your story straight. you are the one that is only increasing the rumor mill.
and who is ms. fields. without knowing who that person is, what you have posted means nothing.
please verify your facts first before criticizing others here.
sorry, but it was posted in the philippine news that is published in the us. and it had nothing to do with any type of bad reputation, but with the exam from this summer.
you need to get your story straight. you are the one that is only increasing the rumor mill.
and who is ms. fields. without knowing who that person is, what you have posted means nothing.
please verify your facts first before criticizing others here.
i received this email from a friend
it is with great pride and honor to announce to you all that the newly elected president of the national council of state board of nursing is faith fields, the current executive director of arkansas state board of nursing. miss fields is from little rock, a friend and a former colleagueof dr. morris. they both have served in the arkansas state board of nursing a while back.
i have clarified some questions with her on our telephone conversation:
1. there was a note on the online forum that the president of ncsbn is notcoming to the philippines because of the nursing leakage.
answer: this is not a true statement because she will be coming to thephilippines in october to address the pna as a key note speaker.
2. i asked her what is her stand on the nursing leakage as an executivedirector of arkansas state board and as president of ncsbn.
answer: from arkansas state board of nursing, when a june 2006 exam passerapplies to arkansas, the applicant will not have any problem with their application, unless the applicant came from the identified area where thenursing leakage took place, for example baguio. the application process might take longer because they have to investigate whether that personbenefited from the leak. this means a delay on the application, but does not mean a denial of application for the nursing licensure or nclex exam.
from the ncsbn standpoint: faith fields said she cannot officiallyrepresent the organization, but the most she commented was, the councildoes not really have a stand whether it is for a retake or not. accordingto her, she is waiting for the philippines due process of law, andwhatever is the outcome, the ncsbn will honor.i think this is a faircomment.thus, whatever comments made by deans, or the public officials saying that ncsbn wants a retake is not true.
3. i also learned from miss fields that a big hospital in little rock, had recently started hiring from the philippines. this is good news contraryto what i told you because, hospitals had refused to hire nurses because of bad experience in the past.
well, my point is, it is a blessing for arkansas hospitals to open its door of opportunities to nurses from the philippines.
pls. be careful with some of the comments and recommendations posted onthe online forum. you might be misled with some false information and unwarranted suggestions.
hope you understand how the boardpassers of 2006 batch feel ..they have suffered for so long. .we dont want to happen this sleepless nights and anxiety to others . ..so hope you understand how we feel . .its easy to say for a retake on your part because you dont feel how a victim of this issue felt .
those news you have read in the newspaper are baseless and are just hearsay witohut proof! its so easy to invent news which is bias and baseless, so its better to hear news from the credible ones! like mis faith . .you heard it from the horse mouth . .
im not criticizing nor offending anybody, im just trying to correct things to stop rumors about the state of arkansas which is being used to discriminate the batch of 2006!
and cgfns never said that they will not allow our batch take the exam, its so unfair making such statement that will destroy your fellow nurses, all what cgfns want us to have before allowing to take the exam is our license, so if we already have our licenses we will be accepted by cgfns whether we retake or not. and ofcourse we know about vsc, ofcourse we will not apply vsc without local license because it is needed but once our licences are granted we can apply anytime. lets just leave hearsay ...as hearsay and speculation..as speculation...lets move on
why are they punishing the innocent? has the world gone so mad that is how it works? it is so easy for them to tell us to retake the exam because they were not the ones that prepared for and took it!
we are not sacrificial lambs. we are nurses with hearts full of compassion to serve humanity, and minds that know what is wrong and what is not...from a fellow b.passer
thank you and peace to you all !!!!!
lets wish everyone good luck rather than putting them down ... we are all nurses and we are all children of god.
you can call it what ever you want, but per the philippine news that is published all over the us and is available all over our country, in the issue that came out august 30, 2006, page a10 to be exact.
"manila newspapers also reported last week that dante ang, chair of the commission on filipinos overseas, he has received confirmation thsat the state of arkansas will not hire nurses who took the june 2006 board exams."
and per what you states above, they will not permit any that were from areas that were involved in the scandal to write the exam, and more and more provinces are being named. and you have also forgotten the most important part of all of it.
cgfns will not issue the vsc to those that took that exam and do not participate in a retake. so being able to take the nclex exam means nothing if you cannot get a visa.
..............end of story from me, i do not need to waste my time splitting hairs with you over this.
CLARIFICATION STATEMENT OF CGFNS - faxed to PRC dated 11/01/06
"CGFNS does not believe at present time that all legal challenges (of NLE) have been fully and finaly resolved."
"CGFNS emphasizes that it accepts in all respects the judgement of the Philippine courts and regards all licenses obtained following the June '06 exam as valid nursing licenses."
"CGFNS is required by US law, however, to make a judgement about whether June 06 LICENSURE PROCESS was comparable to that required for a US nurse."
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I guess as history has been known to show that a scandal uncovered is evidence of a prolonged problem. Its blatently evident that the PNA has not got there house in order and nurses are suffering.
I guess people should make their voices heard should other nurses future be in jeopardy.Clearly what could be evident with the above scandal is your goverment involvement. Maybe they could have pulled the plug on nurses migrating to the USA( just my conspiracy theory on things) by throwing a cheating caviat in all of this.
If i was a USA recruiter i would take note of this situation and proceed with great caution in employing nurses from the Phillipines.An orginisation with a tainted reputation( such as the PNA) will have to work double hard to regain international respect. No matter how many local laws are passed to rectify the situation. The stakes in nursing are very high in western countries especially in the UK,USA AUSTARALIA NEW ZEALAND and SOUTH AFRICA etc....litigation being one of them
We employ an adaptaion program system in the UK where foreign graduates have to undergo a six month scrutiny of proficiency in all areas especially language skills. I would be a great advocate of this.Passing an nclex exam is just the start. Cultural work adaptation takes place over a sustainable long period
I am saying these words and hope nurses het a fair share in the USA originating from the phillipines.
Plato 353:mortarboard: