Putting rumors to sleep

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there are so many rumors that come out of manila on a daily basis, that i am going to take the time to post this, so please take the time to read it. it is crazy with the amount of pms and e-mails that i get because no one bothers to do any reading first, and relies only on the rumors floating around the country.

1. the us government doe not require that you pass the local exam for immigration purposes.

2. most states do not require that you take the local exam for licensure.

3. cgfns exam requires that you take and pass the local exam, but most states no longer require the exam.

4. if you are not already in final process of waiting for the embassy interview, there will not be any of the 50,000 visas available for you, the cut-off date tentatively for october is for the actual visa, not for when your petition was submitted. the visa numbers are counted noly when they are actually issued, not any time before that.

5. if immigration requires that you take the english exams, then they are not waived for you if a state requires them.

6. most states that have requirements want the toefl exam and they do not accept the ielts series. you will need to pass the toefl exam before you will be permitted to sit for an exam.

7. if you are in the us on a tourist visa, there is no automatic extension granted to you if you pass the nclex exam. and applying for any type of extension on that visa, will most likely get you sent home. it is extremely difficult to get an extension, and if they deny it, you will have no choice but to leave the country, even if you get a job offer. the attorneys that are telling you otherwise are only interested in collecting their fee from you, it makes no difference what happens to you as long as they file that petition for you. and they are not doing it for free.

8. do not let your visa fall out of status, no matter what your firends tell you. it is grounds for deportation if immigration so decides. and no return for ten years.

any questions concerning this needs to get posted on the international forum, not on this forum. i am posting this here, since so many of you are continuing to ask the same questions over and over again without reading first.

please take the time to read "thr primer" that is at the top of the international forum before you consider posting.

tagalog is not permitted in any post, and will be deleted. english is the only language that is to be used.

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Specializes in Oncology, Medical.

Big thanks to you, Suzanne. I was goin' to write a post that says in big bold large font, "Local exam is not required for licensure". Why do people keep on posting this several times asking if it is required? It seems that people don't research or read at all but rely on fast answers and replies. Talk about laziness... sheesh... when all you have to do is sit in a comfy chair, click, scroll and read. I don't see any hardships in that. Give Suzanne a break for these over zillion repeated questions. Its so sickening reading and seeing it posted again. :angryfire

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Thank you for posting that, started to think that it was only me.:balloons:

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Specializes in geriatric nursing.

i also agree to that... people rely on quick answers and not find solutions on their own..knowing that it was already answered on previous thread/posts..:uhoh3:

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I agree!!! So for those who are new here please try to find some time to read some of the threads and you will be amazed of the informations that you will get. It will save the time of the moderators to answer repeated questions which can be found already here.

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and here are a few more.

1. there is no such thing as a ny nclex, or a ca nclex. it is a national exam and has nothing at all to do with specific states. it can be written anywhere in the world that has a testing center for the nclex-rn exam. it is not restricted to only some centers for some states.

2. no such thing that ny is no longer going to allow foreign nurses to get licensed after november, 2006.

i want a dollar-us, for every silly thing that is coming out of manila. sorry to say, but i would not believe one single thing that you are hearing there. take the time to verify any piece of information, such as the local license is required to work in the us. or my all time favorite, that cgfns exam is required for every state in the us- not.

the only ones that are telling you this are the ones that are trying to sell you a review program. consider the source, as well as the agency. if any are still continuing to tell you that, wonder what else that they are telling you that is a lie, run as fast as you can from them.

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Specializes in Medical-Surgical.

Most states in the US do not require foreign nurse applicants to have a local license before sitting on the NCLEX. California and New York are some examples but if you want to apply for an interim permit/temporary nursing license then you have to be a licensed nurse in your country and passed TOEFL.

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But most hospitals will not even consider offering a job to a foreign nurse that has not taken the NCLEX exam, and they will not even consider one with an Interim permit. The only ones that will are agencies, and nursing homes.

Hospitals are not interested and will not beign the petition process until they see a passing score on the NCLEX exam.

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Hello suzanne! Good day. I've been reading your threads and post because it is the most factual and objective info that's been coming out there and thank you for helping us here in the rumor run country.

I have one question to ask and it is this "Is NCLEX waiting for the retake? Or else they would have no business with us?"

This was said by our new dean of the institute of nursing of Far Eastern University, Dean Borromeo and I am quite alarmed by the issue. Since she is a dean, I'm putting much weight in the things she said. I don't know if it is somehow a biased information since she is also pushing for a retake.

Thank you for your answer since I also wanted to enlighten my batchmates who passed their board exam this june about the issue.

Thank you.

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Hello suzanne! Good day. I've been reading your threads and post because it is the most factual and objective info that's been coming out there and thank you for helping us here in the rumor run country.

I have one question to ask and it is this "Is NCLEX waiting for the retake? Or else they would have no business with us?"

This was said by our new dean of the institute of nursing of Far Eastern University, Dean Borromeo and I am quite alarmed by the issue. Since she is a dean, I'm putting much weight in the things she said. I don't know if it is somehow a biased information since she is also pushing for a retake.

Thank you for your answer since I also wanted to enlighten my batchmates who passed their board exam this june about the issue.

Thank you.

I hate to say it, but I am 100% behind a retake. I may get stoned for saying that, but unless it is put to rest, it is going to be hard for any that took that exam to get closure. There are just too many what-ifs that cannot be answered. This would give everyone a clean slate.

Funny thing is that you are only hearing from those that do not want a re-take.................I teach and prepare students on a daily basis for the NCLEX exam here, not sure what the big deal is to take an exam again if you prepared properly for it in the first place. You will need to prepare for the NCLEX exam. And again this should have been material that was learned in the first place, not crammed for just to take the exam. If so, those nurses are going to have serious issues working in the US, and I would not want them working with me or caring for me. You need to learn and understand the material, and then it stays with you. Those that have taken the exam and prepared properly for it, should be able to sit down and take the same exam one year later and pass it again. You are dealing with patients lives and much depends on that. If they are afraid of taking an exam again now, what will happen later on. When you start work in the US in a hospital, you are going to be constantly tested by the educators for your unit as well as your peers.

The biggest issue concerning the NCLEX exam and the NLE exam is that if it was taken, there has been no issuance of licenses, and the documents that state that the nurse passed, are not being considered official by those that I have spoken to over here. It would have been much better for the nurse never to have written the exam, then there would be no issue with sitting for the NCLEX exam. But since it has been written, the scores are at issue, and consequently, it is going to be hard to get any state to give approval to take the exam. For those that applied and have the ATT, then it is not an issue, but for those that are now in the process of applying, everything is up in the air.

There is no official proof of passing the exam, the PRC cannot give out that information to other countries since they have no idea of what is going to happen.

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It sounds like we need a retake, from your standpoint. But since the PRC decided that there will be no retake what will be the steps that can best benefit us? Are you saying we will not include the local test that we took in the application form?

It is hard to believe that this thing happened to my batch. I've been studying pretty hard, graduated with honors, confident that I will pass (and I passed) and then this thing happened. Although the PRC decided there will be no retake, it seems that all of us who passed are tarnished with the issue. I wasted time, money, and effort in the board exam that did not benefit me.

So what are we going to do now? I have a wife and 2 kids. Time is of the essence.

What will be your advice?

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See that is where you are wrong, there has been no official word out fromt he PRC yet. Only newspaper reports interviewing different people from the PRC, but there is no official word out.

You need to include the local test since you took it, to withhold that information would be considered lying, and grounds to have your visa revoked. The hospitals that I have been in contact with over the past few days will not even consider a nurse from there that just took the exam. Perhaps if they restest and pass, but without doing that, there are no reputable facilities that are willing to take a chance.

And after what I saw this morning, about the movie theater fiasco, again with cheating. The only way to clear anyone's name is to actually retest, and as I keep saying. If the nurse prepared properly the first time for the exam, there is no issue at all with sitting for it again. The more that I hear protests about not wanting to retest, sorry to say but the more that I think that the nurse was involved in cheating. And until they can clear their name, they will have a black cloud over it and it will last the next five years plus.

There is no choice available to any of you but to retest if you wish to work in the US. Or you are going to be haunted by it and checking over your shoulder for years to come. There are already issues going on wuth cheating on the CGFNS exam, as well as the NCLEX exams..........then add in to the equation, of the Diploma selling, and nurses that graduated form them coming to the US and they cannot even draw up a medication or give an injection.....................and of course they were at all of their required clinicals, and can preform any skill. Not................I have worked with a few, and they have no business even being in the US, patient's lives are at stake................but they were willing to have documents falsified for them to get over here............and they deserve what will be given to them, I am sorry to say.

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