there are so many rumors that come out of manila on a daily basis, that i am going to take the time to post this, so please take the time to read it. it is crazy with the amount of pms and e-mails that i get because no one bothers to do any reading first, and relies only on the rumors floating around the country.
1. the us government doe not require that you pass the local exam for immigration purposes.
2. most states do not require that you take the local exam for licensure.
3. cgfns exam requires that you take and pass the local exam, but most states no longer require the exam.
4. if you are not already in final process of waiting for the embassy interview, there will not be any of the 50,000 visas available for you, the cut-off date tentatively for october is for the actual visa, not for when your petition was submitted. the visa numbers are counted noly when they are actually issued, not any time before that.
5. if immigration requires that you take the english exams, then they are not waived for you if a state requires them.
6. most states that have requirements want the toefl exam and they do not accept the ielts series. you will need to pass the toefl exam before you will be permitted to sit for an exam.
7. if you are in the us on a tourist visa, there is no automatic extension granted to you if you pass the nclex exam. and applying for any type of extension on that visa, will most likely get you sent home. it is extremely difficult to get an extension, and if they deny it, you will have no choice but to leave the country, even if you get a job offer. the attorneys that are telling you otherwise are only interested in collecting their fee from you, it makes no difference what happens to you as long as they file that petition for you.and they are not doing it for free.
8. do not let your visa fall out of status, no matter what your firends tell you. it is grounds for deportation if immigration so decides. and no return for ten years.
any questions concerning this needs to get posted on the international forum, not on this forum. i am posting this here, since so many of you are continuing to ask the same questions over and over again without reading first.
please take the time to read "thr primer" that is at the top of the international forum before you consider posting.
tagalog is not permitted in any post, and will be deleted. english is the only language that is to be used.
Hi Suzanne! I just want to ask if my nclex application will also have a problem with regards to the recent nle leakage issue. I submitted my application last April and received my confirmation card on May. I stated with my letter that I don't have a license because i am currently reviewing for my local licensure examintaion. I passed the board and the ielts. And I wish and pray that my nclex application will not be affected. I still did not receive my eligibility, and i'm afraid that what you're saying might be the reason.
comment for this: "not sure what the BIG DEAL is to take an exam again if you prepared properly for it in the first place."
oh yah?? BIG DEAL HUH?? maybe it okey for you cause you not from a far province like me. do you know how much it costs if i will take the exam AGAIN? yah.. PRC said its free.. will they pay for our allowances? fare?(from here to the big city we are about to take again) how about our meals? maybe its TOO LITTLE for you cause you dont know how it is to be like us!!
if you are talking about the knowlege, i am willing and confident to take AGAIN. .i am innocent about the leakage. but the costs and the HARD experiences we faced during that june 20006 exam are reasons enough!!!
by due process, innocents must be free. . .
anyway, I trust the Lord. He will definitely help us about this problems. . .
sorry, but i lived in se asia for many years on and off.
you do not have any choice but to clear your name. at this point, whatever decision that the prc makes concerning the exam, none of the hospitals here are going to hire based on that exam.
it is your choice about what to do, but it will be much quicker just to retake the exam.............there are always going to be issues with this exam.
and you would have been much better off not taking the exam in the furt place, exactly what i have said all along and way before this exam was ever given. last year even..................
local exam is not needed for licnesure in the us. period.
if noney was not wasted with this exam, then there woulkd never have been any issue about it.
Perhaps, it would not be asking too much if we can also consider that not all nursing students/graduates (young or not so young) from the Philippines (or probably from any country) would not want to start to practice their profession (or gain work experience) in their own country (due to several reasons such as that they are not in a hurry to work overseas or do not have the financial means or have other plans in mind or have not been informed ahead about this forum, etc..). Many, still, would be very happy to work (permanently or temporarily / with compensation or as a volunteer / full time or part time) and be later contented (no matter how small the salary is) as professional nurses or clinical instructors in their own country. To be able to do so, they need a local license and so they prepare well and bravely face/sit for the local licensure exam (note: Phil.local nurse exam is given only twice a year, June and December, unlike nclex).
Professional employers, local or overseas (nursing or non-nursing field), would know how to look, understand (or judge) at what has happened and would also professionally consider (as they always have) other equally or more important factors.
just my humble and positive contribution to a fuller understanding.
In the Philippine News that I picked up a copy of today, the August 30 to Sept. 5 issue, the front page article states:
"Do not hire new grads, dean tells U.S. nurses"
and this is per Dean Josefina Tuazon.
Please do some research and find the article.................it also goes on to say that Arkansas is refusing to grant a license to anyone that took the June, 2006 NLE exam. And if they have started, others are going to follow suit.
It doesn't matter what I say, but when the Dean of the University of the Philippines School of Nursing says something like that, you better know that others are going to follow her words.
In the Philippine News that I picked up a copy of today, the August 30 to Sept. 5 issue, the front page article states:
"Do not hire new grads, dean tells U.S. nurses"
and this is per Dean Josefina Tuazon.
Please do some research and find the article.................it also goes on to say that Arkansas is refusing to grant a license to anyone that took the June, 2006 NLE exam. And if they have started, others are going to follow suit.
It doesn't matter what I say, but when the Dean of the University of the Philippines School of Nursing says something like that, you better know that others are going to follow her words.
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that's a hard hitter. there goes the state of nursing education in the philippines. totally heartbreaking.
There a big issues going on over here about the diploma mills in top of everything else. And unfortunately, I have worked with a couple, there is no way that they did any clinical experience period anywhere in nursing field. Way too green..................
So let this be a lesson for all, and especially the ones that were complainin gto me and behind my back that I did not know what I was talking about. Here it is right from the Dean's mouth as well.
The Philippine nurses in the US that have been here for years really worked hard to get where they are, and then for a few unscrupulous people to come in and destroy the reputation within a few months, I hope that they have to pay dearly for the price of doing that. Even from some of the review centers there, the teachers stated that they were licensed in the US, and low and behold, no licenses exist for where they actualy said they had them.
And we checked and we checked well. They do not exist.
Here is the link to the article. Headline is misleading (has nothing to do with NLE) as what she is suggesting is that nurses need 2-3 years of experience before working in the US. I disagree with this position but I dont have problems if employers try to get the best candidates. Not all kinds of experience are the same. It's better to have short, quality work than long years of garbage and useless work.
Here is the link to the article. Headline is misleading (has nothing to do with NLE) as what she is suggesting is that nurses need 2-3 years of experience before working in the US. I disagree with this position but I dont have problems if employers try to get the best candidates. Not all kinds of experience are the same. It's better to have short, quality work than long years of garbage and useless work.
Actually it has much to do with the NLE exam, if you really read the article, at least the one that I read.
First, there was the cheating issues, then the pass rate of only less than 45% on the actual exam. That is the lowest that I have ever seen from there and that is what she is worried about. There are nurses that I have seen make it thru the exams, but never did any clinical training at the bedside when they were in school. And yes, sorry to say that they really exist. And diplomas have been bought.
Next, you are going to see states not accept those that took the exam, Arkansas has already started and I expect more to follow.
corrupted_caregiver
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Well, I need to retake the test then... *sigh*
Everything is wasted. Anyway, I'm not in a hurry to go there but I do have plans. I still have 2 years.
Thanks Suzanne.