Good grief. America's Frontline Doctors, a group of quacks who claim to know more than actual experts are pushing the use of ineffective parasite med to prevent and or treat COVID.
On a personal note, my hubby works for a farm store and has overheard customers explaining to each other how to dose animal wormer for people. This is in a community that is anti-mask, anti-vaccine, let's just all get infected. Up until, you know, they need hospitalization .
That Texas APN can prescribe off label and unproven courses of treatment ivermectin but very soon she will not be able to prescribe oral abotifacients for women more than 7 weeks pregnant.
She looks so much like a Republican Barbie Doll, I doubt that she is involved with abortifacients.
My ER which sees 225 patients a day still has not had a single one of these mythical ivermectin overdoses.
If it doesn’t happen in your ER that sees a whole 2.06 x 10^-5 of the country’s population every month, then it can’t be happening at all, can it?
Do you normally just look in your own limited ”bubble” and generalize what goes on there to be true for what is a rather populous nation? It seems that you think that your personal experiences are sufficient grounds for you to speculate that something is ”mythical”. To me, that’s not a very logical or scientific approach.
I don’t think that anyone has suggested that there are tens of thousands who overdose on Ivermectin every month, so it doesn’t really surprise me that someone in one single hospital hasn’t encountered one of these cases. I think overdoses happen, but I doubt we’re talking huge numbers.
I sort of wonder how can you ever trust people who are anti vaxxers, who not only won't protect themselves but not even their families.
In my experience with trumpistas, they have almost all been somewhat paranoid and shifty characters. They lie a lot and even to themselves. Very susceptible to outlandish theories. And antivaxxers! Very independent people who don't conform to even proven social practices. Even to each other!
In a group, they seem to support each other but you always see them looking for an opening to stand out with a different view or experience. So how do you trust people like that?
America's the last placed country re vaccination from Covid among all of the industrialized, wealthy countries, I think!
I am approaching this viewpoint myself. I hope the AMA form states that the signee assumes all responsibilities for any outcome of their decision to leave.
Free-dumb!
Leave? They shouldn't even be allowed IN except to the unvaccinated tent in the parking lot:)
Sad indeed. Imagine if it turns out this drug proves effective from an "acceptable" source and people died because it was against the status quo to prescribe it. Our government would have a lot of explaining to do. I can't say one way or another if this stuff is legit or not. However, I am concerned if it is, further efforts will be made to deny that and suppress its use so that explanation never has to be given.
So are you saying that the millions who have rejected a free, effective vaccine aren't taking ivermectin only because the FDA has said it is not proven effective? Because, apparently, it is easily obtained through aforementioned sources.
At least two groups are researching the effectiveness of ivermectin, so I don't know what else the government has to explain. And its use is not suppressed. Providers are able to prescribe it off-label.
America's the last placed country re vaccination from Covid among all of the industrialized, wealthy countries, I think!
The U.S. has lower vaccination rates than Canada, several Middle Eastern countries, Japan, Australia will likely get there shortly and lower rates than most countries in Europe. However many Eastern European countries have abysmal numbers. After previously having been occupied by the Soviet Union for decades, citizens in many of these countries have very low trust in government and there’s a lot of vaccine disinformation being spread as well.
1.So are you saying that the millions who have rejected a free, effective vaccine aren't taking ivermectin only because the FDA has said it is not proven effective? Because, apparently, it is easily obtained through aforementioned sources.
2.At least two groups are researching the effectiveness of ivermectin, so I don't know what else the government has to explain. And its use is not suppressed. Providers are able to prescribe it off-label.
1. No that's not what I'm saying.
2. If it proves effective they'd have to explain why it was presented as ineffective, not recommended, and not researched earlier when physicians were reporting its effectiveness, like the young lady in the video I shared with you. When I say explain, I don't necessarily mean it's their fault. People would be curious how we developed a vaccine so quickly but overlooked a readily available form of treatment.
I can appreciate the argument there aren't conclusive studies to support or deny its effectiveness. The challenge I see is too much effort to deny it rather than be receptive to whether or not it may work. The human dose that is not the feed store stuff.
If it proves effective they'd have to explain why it was presented as ineffective, not recommended, and not researched earlier…
I don’t think it will be that hard to explain. It’s being ”presented” as not being effective simply because there are currently no good quality, randomized, double-blind trials that show that it is effective in treating a Covid infection. If that were to change, then they can say that it’s effective.
15 minutes ago, jive turkey said:
….. physicians were reporting its effectiveness, like the young lady in the video I shared with you.
That ”young lady” doesn’t know that it is effective. She’s as far as I can tell not conducting a trial, has no control group and has no clue whether those of her patients who recover from their infection, would have recovered just the same without the Ivermectin she prescribed.
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She looks so much like a Republican Barbie Doll, I doubt that she is involved with abortifacients.