President Biden thread

34 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

Maybe instead of your hyperbolic reply shed some light on what you think is untrue!

You shared an opinion...and then I shared my own opinion about the opinion that you shared. Is there some obligation to provide more?

23 minutes ago, chare said:

This.  And if he or she would quote the post referred to, that would be helpful as well.

Helpful to whom for what purpose? I said my piece to the general thread and you understood it's meaning.  Goal achieved. 

17 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

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Helpful to whom for what purpose? I said my piece to the general thread and you understood it's meaning.  Goal achieved. 

In the post I quoted, you appeared to have been referring to a particular post/poster.  As I am following this thread tangentially, it would have been helpful to me to know exactly to whom, and in what context, you were referring.

18 minutes ago, chare said:

In the post I quoted, you appeared to have been referring to a particular post/poster.  As I am following this thread tangentially, it would have been helpful to me to know exactly to whom, and in what context, you were referring.

Most of the "conservative" opinion offered about the Biden presidency is hyperbolic and emotional, in my opinion.  You could take your pick. 

3 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/biden-afghanistan-border-deroy-murdock

"Biden inherited from President Donald J. Trump a tough, terrorist-shredding nation at peace, through strength. Seven months later, Biden’s breathtakingly bungled Afghan retreat has imperiled some 15,000"

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Actually what Biden inherited was Trump's plan to withdraw from Afghanistan, with a plan already established with the Taliban that did not also involve the Afghan government.  

I must have missed your outrage regarding the plan when it was Trump's plan.

3 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Afghanistan. The border. Inflation.  Etc.

You could tell us about all his successes in these areas.  

The Afghanistan withdraw was inherited from Trump, include the specifics of the plan that opened the door to the Taliban, I agree though he's an idiot for carrying on with pretty much anything he inherited from the previous administration.

The number of border agents on the southern border are increasing again after their numbers were cut under Trump.  The rate of deportations has also increased following the massive slowdown that occured as a side effect of Trump's family separation policy.

Inflation is due to a mix of pandemic suppressed economic activity and a recovery that's starting up faster than expected.

I don't like the guy either, but there are more legitimate criticisms even if they aren't as dramatic.

46 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Afghanistan. The border. Inflation.  Etc.

You could tell us about all his successes in these areas.  

I don't really feel a need to list successes after a mere 7 months in office and Biden isn't in need of accolades and praise, you’re maybe thinking of that other guy.  

Afghanistan.  The border.  Inflation.  CRT. Abortion. BLM.  Gender issues.  Etc.

There's a neverending litany of topics that will find the typical Trump supporter providing hyperbolic and emotional opinion pieces to explain their feelings.  

1 hour ago, MunoRN said:

The Afghanistan withdraw was inherited from Trump, include the specifics of the plan that opened the door to the Taliban, I agree though he's an idiot for carrying on with pretty much anything he inherited from the previous administration.

The number of border agents on the southern border are increasing again after their numbers were cut under Trump.  The rate of deportations has also increased following the massive slowdown that occured as a side effect of Trump's family separation policy.

Inflation is due to a mix of pandemic suppressed economic activity and a recovery that's starting up faster than expected.

I don't like the guy either, but there are more legitimate criticisms even if they aren't as dramatic.

Trump's plan for the exit was with conditions that were not met, hence a new plan was needed. It was the job of the current administration to do just that, but instead we got an epic failure.

The Southern border was under control when Trump left office. The current catastrophe is all on the Biden/Harris admin who purposefully opened the border.

Both of these situations are 100% on the current admin no matter how many times you all try to spin otherwise. 

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

You could tell us about all his successes in these areas.  

Since that is impossible all they got left is to bash and/or blame Trump. 

9 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

Trump's plan for the exit was with conditions that were not met, hence a new plan was needed. It was the job of the current administration to do just that, but instead we got an epic failure.

The Southern border was under control when Trump left office. The current catastrophe is all on the Biden/Harris admin who purposefully opened the border.

Both of these situations are 100% on the current admin no matter how many times you all try to spin otherwise. 

I tend to wonder about the ability our military to plan for and execute orders to withdraw.  I wonder about their ability to assess and report on troop readiness.  I wonder about the military intelligence apparatus and how helpful they really were in Afghanistan.  

Yes. There's a great deal of concern about the southern border among conservatives and Trump supporters.  

Biden accepts responsibility. He said the buck stops with him. 

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Biden accepts responsibility. He said the buck stops with him. 

It doesnt do one da** bit of good to simply say something when there is little to zero actions to fix the huge disaster he created! He needs to get our people and the allies that helped us out by sending our military in, instead he says OK get to the airport, the Taliban will let you through. (Oh, OK, I am sure we can take them at their word Joe) Other countries are going in to get their people and there is no reason our military can't do the same thing. Biden has burned so many bridges with our allies by up and leaving Afghanistan without even notifying them, not sure how he will ever get back credibility for that! He left many weapons for the Taliban, he left many people in danger, he keeps lying, he needs to do more ....but I guess all is well as long he he says the buck stops with him. (Although he does blame others while simultaneously saying that)

2 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:

It doesnt do one da** bit of good to simply say something when there is little to zero actions to fix the huge disaster he created! He needs to get our people and the allies that helped us out by sending our military in, instead he says OK get to the airport, the Taliban will let you through. (Oh, OK, I am sure we can take them at their word Joe) Other countries are going in to get their people and there is no reason our military can't do the same thing. Biden has burned so many bridges with our allies by up and leaving Afghanistan without even notifying them, not sure how he will ever get back credibility for that! He left many weapons for the Taliban, he left many people in danger, he keeps lying, he needs to do more ....but I guess all is well as long he he says the buck stops with him. (Although he does blame others while simultaneously saying that)

Biden burned bridges with our allies? Holy cow...what did he do break a treaty unilaterally or shove a world leader aside? Biden personally left weapons there or he personally told the military to just leave them, in your opinion? What happened to that prudent planning that Esper talked about last year?

I get that you are deciding that is bad for presidents to lie, next you have to figure out what a lie is.