President Biden thread

5 hours ago, nursel56 said:

. . . I guess he could've declared the non-existence of a Sculpture Garden of American Heroes a national crisis, and again siphoned money allocated for soldiers stationed in Afghanistan and other dangerous places, and then not built a sculpture garden or a wall at the southern border.

There are still people who believe Trump was capable of any action that wasn't primarily intended to advance his political objectives and feed his monstrous narcissism.

I think you meant "wasn't capable" as was "was capable".  Yes, his mental health issues preclude him from making decisions in anyone else's interest but his own.  The psychiatric community warned us but too many people don't read:)

12 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Well, that is different then "actions intended to advance his political objectives", isn't it?

No.  It was all about taking Trump down by whatever means necessary.  Like the Russian collusion hoax, among other things.

Fortunately, for Trump haters, a pandemic came along and that was used to bring him down.

 

Do you have any idea why Trump is always pictured trying to get us to see up his nostrils? 

3 hours ago, Beerman said:

Duh.  That's what a politician is elected to do.

I would say anyone who thinks they can do that job has to be a narcissist on some level.  Trump just didn't care to try and hide it.  

He also seemed a bit delusional about it in my opinion.  Saying things like "I'm the single greatest phenomenon they've ever seen" and that he's a "very stable genius".

However, I do agree with you and I said it on threads here long before Trump that in order for you to have the gall to think you can be President of the United States you have to have a whole lot of arrogance and belief in your self-worth.   I noted this when Obama was accused of being arrogant.   But I found Bush, Clinton, well all of them to have some sort of arrogance and confidence about them.

But Trump is just a bit too over the top to the point of making stuff up to make himself look good.  It started Day 1 when he talked of his inauguration (which Spicer said was the largest every) "I looked out, the field was, it looked like a million, million and a half people.”  and it went downhill from there.

34 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Fortunately, for Trump haters, a pandemic came along and that was used to bring him down.

He brought himself down during the pandemic.  

Many crises bring out the strengths in a President and their approval ratings rise.  He blew his chance at being a leader that could have sailed to re-eletion despite what the "Trump haters" did.

 If by "Trump haters" you mean the Democratic Party....well that's what they do they try to bring down whomever is sitting in the White House.  McConnel is pretty good at this, although he failed to bring down Obama for a 2nd term, he certainly made it his priority.  Certainly the Republican Party is in no way shape or form trying not to "bring down" Biden.  That's okay really, it's called politics.

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

Well, that is different then "actions intended to advance his political objectives", isn't it?

No.  It was all about taking Trump down by whatever means necessary.  Like the Russian collusion hoax, among other things.

Fortunately, for Trump haters, a pandemic came along and that was used to bring him down.

 

Nonsense. There was Russian collusion with the Trump campaign.  Now we know that Manafort was interacting with a Russian intelligence operative. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/04/15/government-finally-connects-line-trumps-campaign-russian-intelligence/

And we know that Barr was manipulating what information was published about what the Mueller investigation found.  Hopefully, he will be the second attorney general to go to prison. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/judge-orders-doj-turn-over-mueller-barr-obstruction-memo-trump-2021-5

Maybe you just don't keep up with what's going on in the pertinent and recent events, eh? Besides, who doesn't "hate" a liar who incited a violent attack on our capitol? Or are you going to tell us that the insurrection was a hoax too?

4 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Nonsense. There was Russian collusion with the Trump campaign.  Now we know that Manafort was interacting with a Russian intelligence operative. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/04/15/government-finally-connects-line-trumps-campaign-russian-intelligence/

And we know that Barr was manipulating what information was published about what the Mueller investigation found.  Hopefully, he will be the second attorney general to go to prison. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/judge-orders-doj-turn-over-mueller-barr-obstruction-memo-trump-2021-5

Maybe you just don't keep up with what's going on in the pertinent and recent events, eh? Besides, who doesn't "hate" a liar who incited a violent attack on our capitol? Or are you going to tell us that the insurrection was a hoax too?

Yup Beerman would probably tell you that the current Israeli Palestinian conflict is faked as well.

This conflict is the result of sending an incompetent idiot who was appointed by an even worse incompetent idiot to do a job when his only skills was criminalistic ventures, just like his father in law. 

No diplomacy or identifying the problem. Straight to bribery. Give the surrounding nations what they wanted at the expense of current working political plans and claim that the Abraham Accords was a success. But of course the jackass didn't know how much he got played by Netanyahu and the rest. 

Embolden a criminal like Netanyahu who deliberately stoked this conflict with how many loss of lives for political gain. Wonder who use to do that to the tune of over 900,000 dead Americans? Netanyahu raided the mosque so his speech could be heard and sending in soldiers to further evict settlers from their homes and he didn't expect conflict? Why now? It might have a lot to do with the current political climate for him.

Trump and kushner emboldened the Israeli right wing and destabilized the Jewish govt, ignorantly I admit, but the right wing factions are now firmly in control and it's going to be tough for Israel to go back to a democratic govt. Between the two idiots, more people will die and add to the people who they have inadvertently murdered. Remember kushner was also in charge of the Covid response. That's why I'm allergic to STUPIDITY! It almost always results in chaos and mayhem! 

It's the reason we take the keys away from the drunk driver, however the republicans appears to have a different logic. Not only give him back the keys after he mowed down 900k+ people but keep giving the alcoholic more drinks so he can wreck even more institutions! 

10 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Maybe you just don't keep up with what's going on in the pertinent and recent events, eh?

I think a lot of people think because the Republican Senators banded together to not convict during the Impeachment, and that Meuller found no evidence of collusion,  the it was indeed fake and a witch hunt all made up by "Trump haters" specifically as a lie to bring him down.   (Much in the same way they are trying to bring down Gaetz who for some reason, even though he's a minor player, is the target of made up charges just to bring him down.)

Still nothing has been proved.  It's interesting that people so eager to judge someone as a traitor like Hillary Clinton or Hunter Biden based on circumstance gives Trump a pass.  But I guess that's politics as usual.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/05/time-has-only-weakened-argument-that-russia-probe-was-victory-trump/

12 hours ago, Beerman said:

Well, that is different then "actions intended to advance his political objectives", isn't it?

No.  It was all about taking Trump down by whatever means necessary.  Like the Russian collusion hoax, among other things.

Fortunately, for Trump haters, a pandemic came along and that was used to bring him down.

 

You don't think that Nixon'objective was to preserve his pesidency with the Watergate cover up?  I would call that advancing his objective of remaining president.

38 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I think a lot of people think because the Republican Senators banded together to not convict during the Impeachment, and that Meuller found no evidence of collusion,  the it was indeed fake and a witch hunt all made up by "Trump haters" specifically as a lie to bring him down.   (Much in the same way they are trying to bring down Gaetz who for some reason, even though he's a minor player, is the target of made up charges just to bring him down.)

Still nothing has been proved.  It's interesting that people so eager to judge someone as a traitor like Hillary Clinton or Hunter Biden based on circumstance gives Trump a pass.  But I guess that's politics as usual.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/05/time-has-only-weakened-argument-that-russia-probe-was-victory-trump/

Mueller absolutely found evidence of collusion and Barr twisted the facts for which he's very likely to get into big trouble. 

Gaetz is involved big time evidenced by the deal the Florida guy just struck. Remember, the bar is very high here for an elected official re any investigations and the fact that Gaetz is protesting so loudly, says a lot!