President Biden thread

NutmeggeRN said:

No idea? DJT Jr apparently thought Dr (of Education) Jill Biden should have caught it?

Perhaps he was getting the " 5 stage" reference from NBC news? And, pretty sure DJT Jr was being sarcastic and mimicking the ridiculousness of some far left activist like Woopi Goldberg and others who though Jill should be the "sergeon general "? 😆

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Last week, President Joe Biden was seen for a new finding of a prostate nodule after experiencing increasing urinary symptoms,” his personal office said in a statement. "On Friday he was diagnosed with prostate cancer, characterized by a Gleason score of 9 (Grade Group 5) with metastasis to the bone.”

https://www-nbcnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna207571?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=17476829297761&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.Google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fpolitics%2Fjoe-biden%2Fformer-president-joe-biden-diagnosed-prostate-cancer-rcna207571

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/485976-whoopi-pitches-jill-biden-as-surgeon-general/

Beerman said:

Do you think Congress should spend time and resources looking into it all?  Or, since it all was looking good to you, it's not really important who was doing what?

The assertion that I was replying to was that "his rapidly deteriating mental and cognitive abilities are being recognized".   

It's not, and not being discussed in the mainstream.  If it is, multiple examples should be easy to find.   

Yes, you do.  I appreciate that you have a balanced view.

Most of the discussion here from the left point of view is simply made to appease each other.   There's a term for that, but I'm probably not supposed to use it here.

Propaganda? TDS? 

heron said:

I've noted before, we have very different perspectives.

Fair enough.

I've noticed from interactions with other people as well, we see the same thing and think differently about what we see.

Beerman said:

You missed the point.

Earlier, folks here were correctly assuming that since its the President of the United States who received a clean bill.of health a year ago now has this diagnosis, that it must be in its early stages.

Now that we know its not, those same folks are saying, that instead of a cover-up of his condition that this must be a rare form of the disease that rapidly progressed.

No, actually my point WAS that DJT Jr is a bloviating idiot.. just like his father. 47 was trying to take credit for a few words recently...equalizing and grocery, I believe.🙄 You can defend these clowns all you want, we clearly are polar opposites and that's cool. We are all entitled to an opinion, just because YOU don't like mine doesn't make it wrong. 

Prostate cancer can sneak up quickly and be a devastating diagnosis. Kind of like the person who has an EKG that is normal and drops dead a day later. It happens. I do not believe there is any coverup conspiracy theory on this. 

Beerman said:

Earlier, folks here were correctly assuming that since its the President of the United States who received a clean bill.of health a year ago now has this diagnosis, that it must be in its early stages.

Now that we know its not, those same folks are saying, that instead of a cover-up of his condition that this must be a rare form of the disease that rapidly progressed.

I will say only this: for someone as public as POTUS, I believe a PUBLIC "clean bill of health" about as far as I can throw it. It would not surprise me in the least if it later becomes known that Joe Biden was known to have prostate CA for quite some time. He probably would have had some prostate problems r/t urination for a while and CA is something they'd look for.  POTUS is a position that comes with significant health surveillance. Publicly, it is NOT in the best interest of any sitting POTUS to disclose health challenges, especially during an election cycle. I'm not saying that Joe hasn't suddenly developed a very aggressive type of CA, he very well could have. It's also entirely possible this CA news is but a ruse to deflect attention away from political problems. Either way, I really don't care. His health is what it is, and he's not POTUS, so publicly saying he has CA isn't going to have an effect upon world events beyond sympathy and empathy he receives. 

I am certainly not a fan of Joe Biden, but I do wish the best for him and hope he manages to beat this. As a former POTUS, he has access to world class medical care and he should be treated as aggressively as he chooses to be. I also hope this brings attention to prostate CA. I hardly ever hear about it unless someone "famous" gets it. 

Beerman said:

My post you replied to had nothing to do with DJT or any other "bloviating idiots".  So, you can see why I missed the point you tried to make.

I don't know that we're polar opposites.  I know that you hate Trump.  Other than that, you haven't provided much insight into what you think and why.  As such, I don't hate your opinions.  I am indifferent to them.

Yes, prostate cancer is devastating.   That is obvious.   And, it may be a new and advanced diagnosis in this case.  But based on its advanced stage and that Biden's cognitive condition has been covered up, its not unreasonable to question when he was he diagnosed and what kind of treatment has he been undergoing.

You don't believe there is a cover-up.  Fine.  Share with us how you came to that conclusion.

 

 

PSA screens are recommended to stop at 70, I have seen a report that his last was 2014, in his early 70's. Not everything is a cover-up or conspiracy. NONE of us know when he started with symptoms that would warrant further testing.

NutmeggeRN said:

PSA screens are recommended to stop at 70, I have seen a report that his last was 2014, in his early 70's. Not everything is a cover-up or conspiracy. NONE of us know when he started with symptoms that would warrant further testing.

Exactly. Most nurses learn early on to avoid premature "conclusions" about disease processes. But ... maga has its marching orders.

Speculation =/= conclusion. It's true! Look it up.

NutmeggeRN said:

PSA screens are recommended to stop at 70, I have seen a report that his last was 2014, in his early 70's. Not everything is a cover-up or conspiracy. NONE of us know when he started with symptoms that would warrant further testing.

But that is the narrative that team Trump wants forwarded in the press.  It doesn't matter to the propagandists or their audience what is usual, customary, or reasonable.  That detachment from truth and reality has been seen in team Trump utterances and interactions repeatedly. 

Beerman said:

Exactly.   No of us know when his symptoms started.  I'm allowing for both possibility that they are new or that he's known for awhile. 

 It seems you've ruled out that he's known for awhile.  Am I correct on that?

Yeah  I'm digging my heels in on this...its an opinion and I am entitled to mine.