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After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

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toomuchbaloney said:

That's quite a fever dream.  Was Senator Lankford in on the subterfuge? 

Nah but Biden's uncle that was eaten by cannibals was. 

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This sums it up nicely.  From a Canadian news network. May offer a less bias look . 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/special-counsel-faculties-biden-analysis-1.7109811

Diminished faculties,' 'faulty memory,' 'significant limitations': A damning report on Biden's mental state

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Crusades said:

This sums it up nicely.  From a Canadian news network. May offer a less bias look . 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/special-counsel-faculties-biden-analysis-1.7109811

Diminished faculties,' 'faulty memory,' 'significant limitations': A damning report on Biden's mental state

Apparently President Biden can be considered a much better president than Trump was while also being significantly limited by dementia.  Yet, based upon performance, Biden is ranked much higher than Trump.  Why would Trump be rated so much lower that Biden when Biden is cognitively limited?  And that assessment of Biden was tertiary and only supported the fact that Biden wasn't going to be charged with a crime, like Trump was, for intentionally taking documents.  

Anyway, that old news seemed important to you for some reason.  You would be feeling confident that Trump will prevail in the debate tonight, right? I mean there's no way that Biden, impaired by dementia can do well in a debate, right? 

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Crusades said:

This sums it up nicely.  From a Canadian news network. May offer a less bias look . 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/special-counsel-faculties-biden-analysis-1.7109811

Diminished faculties,' 'faulty memory,' 'significant limitations': A damning report on Biden's mental state

You cite this article, because it confirms what you believe. Clear confirmation bias. 

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toomuchbaloney said:

Yet, based upon performance, Biden is ranked much higher than Trump.  Why would Trump be rated so much lower that Biden when Biden is cognitively limited?  

Actually,  it has more to do with him not being Trump, of course.

"While Biden signed several key pieces of legislation in his first term — economic recovery following the COVID-19 pandemic, an infrastructure overhaul, and major investments in public health and climate actions among them — his record lacks the sort of criteria that would ordinarily warrant a top-15 ranking, Vaugh and Rottinghaus wrote.

"Biden's most important achievements may be that he rescued the presidency from Trump, resumed a more traditional style of presidential leadership and is gearing up to keep the office out of his predecessor's hands this fall,” they wrote. :

https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2024/02/19/biden-14th-in-scholars--presidential-rankings--trump-last

 

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toomuchbaloney said:

An action that will be ineffective while it's argued in the courts.  An action that republicans universally disapprove of.  An action that would be unnecessary if we had a functional congress.  

Looks like it's effective.  Why take this action now and not sooner?  Election year, of course and he's losing on this issue.  It'll probably be rescinded at some point if he's elected.

Disapproved of by Republicans?  Huh?  Actually. this was included in the Secure the Border Act passed last year by House Republicans.  So, if you're looking to place blame Congress, you can look to Democrats in the Senate.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-administrations-asylum-executive-action-decreased-encounters-40/story?id=111427499

 

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toomuchbaloney said:

Apparently President Biden can be considered a much better president than Trump was while also being significantly limited by dementia.  Yet, based upon performance, Biden is ranked much higher than Trump.  Why would Trump be rated so much lower that Biden when Biden is cognitively limited?  And that assessment of Biden was tertiary and only supported the fact that Biden wasn't going to be charged with a crime, like Trump was, for intentionally taking documents.  

Anyway, that old news seemed important to you for some reason.  You would be feeling confident that Trump will prevail in the debate tonight, right? I mean there's no way that Biden, impaired by dementia can do well in a debate, right? 

It's progress that you will even consider out loud that Biden has any cognitive decline as all. Even if to suggest in his cognitive decline he is still better than Trump. Progress!! 

I imagine Trump will do as he usually does and not articulate well. I also think the moderators will lead Biden and bait Trump. 

At first I thought it was a mistake that Trump would go on CNN considering their 8 yr propaganda campaign but it proves he's willing to go and do things that are uncomfortable.  I wonder if Biden would go on Fox News? 

Even if Trump were to win the debate with a 100% consensus, you will say Biden won no matter what. He could be incontinent of his bowels,  forget his name and where he is and you will still say he was the winner. Like a cult victim. 

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Beerman said:

Looks like it's effective.  Why take this action now and not sooner?  Election year, of course and he's losing on this issue.  It'll probably be rescinded at some point if he's elected.

Disapproved of by Republicans?  Huh?  Actually. this was included in the Secure the Border Act passed last year by House Republicans.  So, if you're looking to place blame Congress, you can look to Democrats in the Senate.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-administrations-asylum-executive-action-decreased-encounters-40/story?id=111427499

 

That might be true but Congressional Republicans have proven to be more consistently faithful to criticizing everything Biden does related to immigration than to using reason, logic or negotiated compromise related to immigration. They prove this over and over.  

Republicans in the senate didn't even support the House Republican immigration bill that you mention.   Ignoring that reality to imply that it was obstructed by liberals is an interesting strategy for discussion.  It simply had no chance of passage as written because it was a bit of right wing extremism with no attempt at bipartsan appeal.  The House of Representatives is currently under the thumb of ideological zealots who are stunningly loyal to a felon who tried to overturn the 2020 election results. Very little that they spend time and money on ever makes it to the Senate for consideration. 

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Beerman said:

Actually,  it has more to do with him not being Trump, of course.

"While Biden signed several key pieces of legislation in his first term — economic recovery following the COVID-19 pandemic, an infrastructure overhaul, and major investments in public health and climate actions among them — his record lacks the sort of criteria that would ordinarily warrant a top-15 ranking, Vaugh and Rottinghaus wrote.

"Biden's most important achievements may be that he rescued the presidency from Trump, resumed a more traditional style of presidential leadership and is gearing up to keep the office out of his predecessor's hands this fall,” they wrote. :

https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2024/02/19/biden-14th-in-scholars--presidential-rankings--trump-last

 

No kidding, the people voted for someone because they weren't Trump.  That op-ED said that presidents are often ranked highly after they lead a country through a national crisis.  Of course people wanted someone who wasn't Trump after he failed that most basic and fundamental test of leadership. There were, and still are, so many reasons to vote for someone simply because they are not Trump. Then there are good reasons to vote for Biden including his experience and wisdom, his successful first term, his competent cabinet, etc.  Many people are thankful for the quiet competence of this administration and have zero desire to return to Trump's chaotic cacophony.  

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Beerman said:

The Secure the Border Act passed in May of 2023.  A Senate version was introduced by Sen. Cruz, but was never taken up for debate or a vote.

Why bring it up if it never came to fruition.  Why do you think it never became law?

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toomuchbaloney said:

Republicans in the senate didn't even support the House Republican immigration bill that you mention.   Ignoring that reality to imply that it was obstructed by liberals is an interesting strategy for discussion.  

I've never heard that.  Which Republicans didn't support it?  Do you a link, or just something you remember from when it was happening?

toomuchbaloney said:

It simply had no chance of passage as written because it was a bit of right wing extremism with no attempt at bipartsan appeal.  

"Right-wing extremism"?  Sure.  I guess to those who are in favor of a open border it might seem that way.

You do have a point in that securing the border without included pathways to citizenship for illegal immigrants doesn't appeal to elected Democrats and apparently some of their supporters.

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Beerman said:

The Secure the Border Act passed by House Republicans addressed this.  E-Verify would become federal law.  And, this is one of the items in the bill that congressional Democrats objected to.

That's fair.  I think most Americans could support that.  

The House bill addressed asylum fraud that greatly contributes to a overloaded asylum system.

I keep saying that because the narrative here continues to be that Republicans don't want to fix anything.  It was actually Democrat majority Senate who refused to take up a similar bill to the one passed last year by Republicans.

Yes, that bill you speak of had a few food things in it, but did nothing to stop the influx of those coming.  Thank goodness it was shot down by smarter Republicans than the few who agreed to it.

 

So, the Republicans had 4 years to fix this system and they failed?  So you shoot your own bill down because your own bill was so lousy?

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