President Biden thread

14 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

Trump did have to deal with it too but did have it somewhat under control. I agree that what Biden did in a matter of months should be discussed and also the fact that neither him nor Harris has even bothered to go there and see first hand the problems. 

Either way I really hope that we as a nation will stop with the craziness and solve problems before it is too late. (Not you personally Tweety)

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/nation-well-being-factors-victor-Davis-hanson

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Already gone is the 176-year-old tradition of a pivotal November Election Day. The 152-year-old nine-member Supreme Court, the 184-year-old Senate filibuster and the 62-year-old idea of a 50-state union are all being targeted by the New Democratic Party.  

That's from the Fox news opinion...

How is the November election day gone?

Does the constitution dictate the number supreme court justices?

Where in the constitution is the filibuster described or protected?

I live in Alaska. I'm glad that the roughly 700k residents of AK enjoy  representation in Congress.  This state was admitted in my lifetime and many of the white folks living here at the time were not from the USA. The more than 700k residents of DC have always lived in the USA and have never had congressional representation.  

I thought the original tea party was all about ending taxation without representation. 

16 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

Trump did have to deal with it too but did have it somewhat under control. I agree that what Biden did in a matter of months should be discussed and also the fact that neither him nor Harris has even bothered to go there and see first hand the problems. 

Either way I really hope that we as a nation will stop with the craziness and solve problems before it is too late. (Not you personally Tweety)

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/nation-well-being-factors-victor-Davis-hanson

Why should Biden or Harris have to go to the border? You're a traveller? How often are you in charge? If you are, do you constantly check up on people? You give them assignments because HR has already vetted their abilities and you have to trust that they know what they are doing. 

It's the reason you have to vote for capable people who actually know what they are doing. They bring the right people in to deal with various specialties and don't make their incompetent son in law the boss of so many things. It's why nepotism and favoritism are negated by hearings to ensure that capable people are employed! 

1 hour ago, Daisy4RN said:

@subee

I didn't mean that you personally said I was a racist, I meant in general terms as others have done that. 

And, if you recall I did respond to a solution to the border problem earlier by saying that Biden could have left well enough alone at least until he had some kind of plan to handle the influx.

I quoted you and responded to you because I thought an actual conversation would be possible with you. I meant no offense!

Thank you.  These large migrations aren't dependent on who is president.  They are cyclical and depend largely on what is happening on their end...nor ours.  Just because Biden didn't call them murderers, gang members or rapists doesn't mean that he doesn't understand the threat of letting people whom we know nothing about into the country.  The only people I read about that are getting in are the unaccompanied minors.  We have only once had to deal with a large influx of unaccompanied minors and how did that work out with Trump?  Biden didn't INVITE them in.  And they are minors?  Surely in a country littered with big, ugly McMansions, there is room to accomodate kids with friends or relatives or anything else besides cages.  My cheapest shot is to the Catholic church in Latin America for telling desperately poor people not to use birth control (except for the Jesuits:)   And here we are with people who can't have an economy because of overpopulation. I spent some time in a Jesuit school which my Jewish father wanted me to do!  We can be firm without being petty.  

American immigration policy is clearly broken but it was only overtly cruel and petty for a few short but troubling years, IMV.  I really appreciated the thoughtfulness of your remark, @subee

3 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:

 

People here have completely dismissed the website I have used (because right leaning) by using left leaning websites and "fact checkers". And again it is sad that everything is bias one way or the other when it should just be facts.

I usually work under the assumption that there is always bias (both ways) and that the facts lie somewhere in the middle.

If we, as a nation, cannot get back to the place where we listen to each other and meet in the middle (without the name calling, rioting, people getting fired, dehumanizing those with different ideas and thoughts etc.) I hate to see how this Country turns out in the end, it won't be pretty.

Do we really want to have a one party system, seriously how can that end up good for anyone and that is exactly where we are headed. 

Please do not lump everyone who disagrees or challenges your postings as not listening, or dehumanizing. 

And yes, perhaps there is  more than one point of view, probably multiple points of view on the situation at the border. Limiting this to two, as when you use the phrase "both ways" is just dismissive. Buts facts are facts, not somewhere in the middle. 

I for one do not want a one party system. I appreciate the reasons for at least two parties. The parties need to rely on facts, science, and obey the constitution. I do not think ardent supporters of Trump  care about any of those things. And I don't think all Republicans are supporters of Trump. 

34 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

Please do not lump everyone who disagrees or challenges your postings as not listening, or dehumanizing. 

And yes, perhaps there is  more than one point of view, probably multiple points of view on the situation at the border. Limiting this to two, as when you use the phrase "both ways" is just dismissive. Buts facts are facts, not somewhere in the middle. 

I for one do not want a one party system. I appreciate the reasons for at least two parties. The parties need to rely on facts, science, and obey the constitution. I do not think ardent supporters of Trump  care about any of those things. And I don't think all Republicans are supporters of Trump. 

I also believe that we need more than one voice and perspective represented and I agree that facts are just facts, they aren't right, left or middle.

This reality where Trumpublicans have zero obligation to facts or science or now, even the constitution is very dangerous...not only for that political party but for our republic.  I think that the GOP is lost but we might be able to save the country. My anxiety about this was reduced immensely after 012021. I don't worry that Biden has corrupt or petty intentions or motivations.  

I have republican voting family who didn't support Trump and those who did/do. The Trumpublicans almost universally consider those who won't support Trump as RINOs. On a state level, Trumpublicans are in the habit of censoring republican politicians for speaking their minds about Trump...if that thinking is critical or negative.  It's hard to imagine how the term "republican" would ever dissociate itself from Trump.  Conservative Democrats and what remains of the preTrump GOP will have to find a new commonality to provide balance to progressive optimism for change and growth.  

IMV

37 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

Please do not lump everyone who disagrees or challenges your postings as not listening, or dehumanizing. 

And yes, perhaps there is  more than one point of view, probably multiple points of view on the situation at the border. Limiting this to two, as when you use the phrase "both ways" is just dismissive. Buts facts are facts, not somewhere in the middle. 

I for one do not want a one party system. I appreciate the reasons for at least two parties. The parties need to rely on facts, science, and obey the constitution. I do not think ardent supporters of Trump  care about any of those things. And I don't think all Republicans are supporters of Trump. 

I didn't mean me personally, I meant that "news" organizations are bias ( and the bias goes both ways, some right and some left) and as I said as a nation we are not listening to each other but instead dehumanizing others, meaning news organizations, politicians etc. And somewhere along the line it has become OK for people to be fired, doxxed, kicked off social media etc because of their views, IMO unfortunately this should not be America but it is!

LOL, Republicans do care about the Country and the Constitution. But, it is currently the Democratic party that is going after the power grab to keep their power. It is completely unconstitutional to make DC a state but that is exactly what they are trying to do. That along with with getting rid of the filibuster and packing the supreme court should keep them in control, ie a one party system. I believe that is called a dictatorship or totalitarianism. Add to that making Puerto Rico a state, massive infrastructure and covid bills, immigration issues, gun issues...where do you think this will end. Like I said, it won't be pretty for any of us!

3 hours ago, Curious1997 said:

Why should Biden or Harris have to go to the border? You're a traveller? How often are you in charge? If you are, do you constantly check up on people? You give them assignments because HR has already vetted their abilities and you have to 

Because Biden put Harris in charge of the border crisis and it is a total mess (and of their own doing)!

I have been Charge Nurse and as such it is your responsibility to go check things out when messes/train wrecks arise regardless of assignments.

3 hours ago, Curious1997 said:

The solution is European style coalition govt with multiple parties. That way everyone gets represented. Instead of being lumped in with only two parties.

As a businessman I am all for certain republican policies. Why should I have to pay so much capital gains and then have to resort to flexible means to reduce my tax rates? But then republicans have so many wonky behaviors that I cannot ever see myself supporting them. 

Coalition style govt usually forces only the absolute best politicians to rise to the top. You have to be a superior negotiator and include enough of everyone else to form a GOVERNMENT and you cannot 'rule' since you can be replaced through votes of NO confidence. YOU HAVE TO BE GOOD! 

It ensures that everyone if they obtained enough votes, gets to have a say. Don't reinvent the wheel! 

To me the border problem is simple. They come through Mexico. Allow Mexico to do much of the sorting. Fine Mexico through NAFTA arrangements for infringements. Develop and police the countries with the most refugees. The moment they get into the country make them legal with the intent of citizenship. Pay taxes legally.

Foreign policy is about branding sometimes. Make our brand better. Work with the govts of those countries to outsource work. Temporary work visas to weed out the chaff. It's win, win for us. We will be evaluating people within their own countries through work projects with the intention of luring them here. China and India sends their students here for education and then we allow them to go back to their countries. That's absurd! Identify the best and incentivize them into staying. World War 2, we took Germany’s best scientists and slayed everyone else. Einstein... Austrian! Tesla... Czech! 

Don't reinvent the wheel! 

 

I have to admit I don't know much about European governments. But I do know that we need at least 2 parties and the different branches (executive etc) to keep things in check. The Dems are currently the ones trying to "reinvent the wheel". If they get away with it we will all suffer the consequences as I am guessing nobody here is an elite. Some of your views are Conservative, this is what we are supposed to do, take the best of each side, meet in middle and make policies that are good for we the people. After all, that is the job of our government, to work for us, not themselves, not other governments/people, not big businesses/corporations, and not lobbyists.

3 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

Because Biden put Harris in charge of the border crisis and it is a total mess (and of their own doing)!

I have been Charge Nurse and as such it is your responsibility to go check things out when messes/train wrecks arise regardless of assignments.

Daisy, he's only been in for about 3 months now and with the last four years animosity and terrorism to people on the border, of course they are trying to get in again. 

Consider how poor these people are and what a humongous effort it took to traverse Mexico and likely subsequent countries just to get to the border. Imagine what must have been going on in their own countries to prompt such an extreme gesture to pack up and leave their familiar surroundings and family etc. Then probably knowing full well that they might have to cross a hostile desert etc. 

Isn't that the sort of gumption you want from potential citizens? It's not like they will be taking our jobs but I can bet that they will be instilling those same extraordinary desires into their children to succeed. I'm talking from first hand accounts. I know many Hispanics and they are incredibly hard working with two and three jobs, often lugging their teenage children and younger to jobs with them. They are polite and respectful. Only a very few have I met that's a problem and they were generally led astray by some American. 

These people are great additions for our society. The right values and ethics. 

7 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

I didn't mean me personally, I meant that "news" organizations are bias ( and the bias goes both ways, some right and some left) and as I said as a nation we are not listening to each other but instead dehumanizing others, meaning news organizations, politicians etc. And somewhere along the line it has become OK for people to be fired, doxxed, kicked off social media etc because of their views, IMO unfortunately this should not be America but it is!

LOL, Republicans do care about the Country and the Constitution. (1) But, it is currently the Democratic party that is going after the power grab to keep their power.

(2)It is completely unconstitutional to make DC a state but that is exactly what they are trying to do.

That along with with (3)getting rid of the filibuster

and (4) packing the supreme court should keep them in control, ie a one party system.

I believe that is called a dictatorship or totalitarianism. Add to that making Puerto Rico a state, massive infrastructure and covid bills, immigration issues, gun issues...where do you think this will end. Like I said, it won't be pretty for any of us!

Please clarify (1) how Democrats going after a power grab. Did you think it was a power grab for Trump to lie for months and months about election fraud and then try to get state results changed in his favor? And incite an angry mob to storm the capitol and stop the EC certification (what was the purpose of that besides grab power that Trump has lost?)

(2) could you please show me that language in the constitution because I can't find it.  Maybe the alternative is that those DC residents shouldn't pay any federal taxes?

(3) similarly, what is sacred about that senate rule...the filibuster?

(4) Republicans held an open seat on the supreme court and denied a rightfully nominated candidate from his constitutional right to senate consideration for almost an entire calendar year.  That was for entirely partisan political reasons.  Then republicans rushed a candidate onto the bench while people were literally already casting votes for the person they wanted to seat the next Justice (that person wasn't Trump). That resulted in the most corrupt and incompetent president ever elected, the fellow twice impeached in a one term failed presidency appointing 3 justices to the court.  But that's not court stacking, eh? Again, where in the constitution is the number of justices dictated?

If you see dictatorship in Biden's leadership then you don't know what dictatorship involves. 

7 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

I have to admit I don't know much about European governments. But I do know that we need at least 2 parties and the different branches (executive etc) to keep things in check. The Dems are currently the ones trying to "reinvent the wheel". If they get away with it we will all suffer the consequences as I am guessing nobody here is an elite. Some of your views are Conservative, this is what we are supposed to do, take the best of each side, meet in middle and make policies that are good for we the people. After all, that is the job of our government, to work for us, not themselves, not other governments/people, not big businesses/corporations, and not lobbyists.

I think you maybe forgetting McConnell's, let's make him a one term president and then after the mid terms, republicans absolutely didn't do bipartisan. In fact McConnell refused to table any agendas and stymied the govt for almost six years, conveniently forgetting that Bush had led this country into a recession through his deregulation of Wall Street and allowing big businesses to get away with anything and needing Obama and Dems to spend their way out of it. Exactly the right plan! 

We harp on it this country about free market when it is absolute nonsense as Amazon and so many other big companies have proven. It's the reason for anti trust regulations. The free market has never worked anywhere, again as Amazon has just proved with the anti union success. Workers are assets just as anything else and if their value isn't linked to the end product then the employers are free to do exactly what Amazon just did. In a free market both workers and products should theoretically be able to work or be manufactured anywhere. Obviously that is not the case! 

Trickle down economics doesn't work, Sam Brown in whatever state he tried it in and bankrupted the state. Republicans have always been on the side of business allowing lobbyists to dictate the regulations with catastrophic results. More profit for the business means more for the few shareholders from the various funds who dictate a huge investment just to get in, limiting it to a select few and huge commissions for the management. Only a few select people actually make money from big business. The rich get richer and the middle class gets taxed! 

That is all republican doing. All! Biden is trying to do is level the playing field for everyone.