President Biden thread

Beerman said:

Of course,  it all comes back to Trump.  Should have known.

Does that mean that you think that Trump has nothing to do with the tone or messaging of the campaign in right wing media? 

Of course it all comes down to Trump, an unscrupulous conman and master of marketing who is fully in control of republican politics and messaging.  

Tweety said:

I believe he meant what he said.

 I think I've expressed the sentiment before that every move from now on is a political one with an election on mind..  Perhaps "stunt" was the wrong word 

I agree.  It's an election year.  Everything has relevance as voters consider who deserves their vote.  I also agree that stunt probably wasn't the right word. It's pretty normal for presidents to make statements about these type of things.  

Beerman said:

Of course,  it all comes back to Trump.  Should have known.

I'll have to admit that I brought up Trump's response to Biden's marking the day (which apparently he has every day since taking office) in my post.  Trump is his political opponent so his camp's statements needed to be addressed.

I can almost take the Speaker of the House's statement because he's long been a Christian Nationalist homophobe/transphobe and seems a decent person.  But the indicted adulterer Trump that is now selling Bibles talking about an "assault on Christianity" makes me nauseous and is too juicy not to talk about it.  Almost all the major news stations are talking about his response.

Biden also issued a statement about Cesar Chavez Day.  March 31st is his birthday which happens to be Easter this year.  Not a word on the assault on Christianity about that one.

Tweety said:

I'll have to admit that I brought up Trump's response to Biden's marking the day (which apparently he has every day since taking office) in my post.  Trump is his political opponent so his camp's statements needed to be addressed.

I can almost take the Speaker of the House's statement because he's long been a Christian Nationalist homophobe/transphobe and seems a decent person.  But the indicted adulterer Trump that is now selling Bibles talking about an "assault on Christianity" makes me nauseous and is too juicy not to talk about it.  Almost all the major news stations are talking about his response.

Biden also issued a statement about Cesar Chavez Day.  March 31st is his birthday which happens to be Easter this year.  Not a word on the assault on Christianity about that one.

 

"because he's long been a Christian Nationalist homophobe/transphobe and seems a decent person."   Do you think a homophobic CN'ist can be a decent person?

Beerman said:

It was a political stunt and they knew it would upset Christians and conservatives.   I agree.  And it worked.  The best thing would have been to ignore that.

It doesn't seem he was being sincere, then.  So, I'm not sure how one could believe it being a stunt and then say they appreciate the sentiment behind that, and that it is evidence that he accepts the humanity of people. 

It wouldn't upset most Christians - just the MAGA ones.

subee said:

"because he's long been a Christian Nationalist homophobe/transphobe and seems a decent person."   Do you think a homophobic CN'ist can be a decent person?

I think he's a dreadful politician.  Maybe because I've learned to co-exist with Christians that want me canceled that I'm giving him a break by calling him decent.  What I mean is that he hasn't been accused of criminal behavior, adultery, rape, bribery and seems scandal free.  Maybe my standards are low.  

Beerman said:

I agree with you on Trump and the Bibles.

Apparently Biden made a half a dozen or so proclamations.  And, doesn't know or remember what he signed.  So, probably wasn't a purposeful or a sincere sentiment.  Just signed the pieces of paper as he was told.

Presidents have speech writers and people that make their statements that he puts his name to.  This is why he has that staff and a spokesperson.   Most likely the proclaims were advised and written by others, we'll just have to disagree that he didn't know what he was doing.  

With respect to your source, I've used them myself, but lately Fox News exhausts me with their all day Republican campaign to get rid of Biden, so I won't watch the video but if it asks him if he declared the day, the answer would be he didn't do that.  He acknowledged and honored an existing day.  There's a difference.  Clearly given the way it blew up in his face he knows and remembers what he did.  

Tweety said:

I think he's a dreadful politician.  Maybe because I've learned to co-exist with Christians that want me canceled that I'm giving him a break by calling him decent.  What I mean is that he hasn't been accused of criminal behavior, adultery, rape, bribery and seems scandal free.  Maybe my standards are low.  

I'm not certain that it's YOUR standards that are low.  

Beerman said:

Exactly.  He had staff put together a proclamation that he put his name to it.  Then the day after doesn't seem to realize he did any such thing.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

Do you hold your candidate to the same standard? 

Beerman said:

Exactly.  He had staff put together a proclamation that he put his name to it.  Then the day after doesn't seem to realize he did any such thing.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

The White House addressed the issue the next day.  Agree to disagree.

Next controversy.

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Amid the ensuing backlash, the White House issued a statement suggesting Biden meant that he hadn't been the one who established the Transgender Day of Visibility or specifically chosen March 31st for its recognition this year.

"President Biden is right. He did nothing in conflict with the 'tenets of Easter,’ which he celebrated yesterday, nor did he choose the date of March 31st for the Transgender Day of Visibility, which has been set sine 2009,” White House Spokesman Andrew Bates told Fox News Digital in a statement.