President Biden thread

Cue people being triggered by the corrupt Justice Department.

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President Biden willfully held onto and disclosed classified materials after leaving the Obama administration and becoming a private citizen, but his actions do no warrant criminal charges, according to a Justice Department special counsel report report released Thursday.

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/08/1200897377/biden-classified-documents-investigation

Edit:   Took me zero minutes to find something.

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The Enemy Within: Corrupt DOJ Will Not Charge Biden — Only Trump

https://spectator.org/the-enemy-within-corrupt-doj-will-not-charge-biden-only-trump/

Beerman said:

He actually told this story twice yesterday at different events, mentioning the wrong person both times.

Either no one on his staff corrected him after the first one, or they did and he forgot and made the same mistake again. 

Which is more concerning?

So Trump mixed up Nicki Haley with Nancy Pelosi in a recent speech.  Does that mean that he is addled as you are suggesting Biden is for doing the same thing?  Biden isn't spouting evil while he makes his gaffes. 

subee said:

So Trump mixed up Nicki Haley with Nancy Pelosi in a recent speech.  Does that mean that he is addled as you are suggesting Biden is for doing the same thing?  Biden isn't spouting evil while he makes his gaffes. 

Deflection.  We should be able to talk about Biden's gaffes without bringing up Trump.  Especially since the gaffe you mention has been discussed.

Tweety said:

Deflection.  We should be able to talk about Biden's gaffes without bringing up Trump.  Especially since the gaffe you mention has been discussed.

So ... what other symptoms of dementia is Biden showing? Is there a point to re-hashing the same phenomenon? Forgetting names does not a diagnosis make. Paint the picture or mind your business and stop wasting bandwidth

Biden is wealthy enough to afford top tier care in the event that he becomes dysfunctional, so his welfare is not particularly worrisome. There's no reason outside of his political role to obsess over his cognitive ability. He is currently running against trump. So ... if you're going to argue about Biden's mental fitness, then it's intellectually dishonest to refuse to compare it to the mental fitness of his opponent.

Getting a little tired of the cherry-picking.

Tweety said:

Deflection.  We should be able to talk about Biden's gaffes without bringing up Trump.  Especially since the gaffe you mention has been discussed.

Why? The option to Biden is Trump and if Biden's gaffes are evidence that he's unfit then it's absolutely fair to compare them.  

heron said:

So ... what other symptoms of dementia is Biden showing? Is there a point to re-hashing the same phenomenon? Forgetting names does not a diagnosis make. Paint the picture or mind your business and stop wasting bandwidth

Biden is wealthy enough to afford top tier care in the event that he becomes dysfunctional, so his welfare is not particularly worrisome. There's no reason outside of his political role to obsess over his cognitive ability. He is currently running against trump. So ... if you're going to argue about Biden's mental fitness, then it's intellectually dishonest to refuse to compare it to the mental fitness of his opponent.

Getting a little tired of the cherry-picking.

Fair enough.  

You may or may not have noticed, I responded to the same post with a post of my own in the Trump thread about his mental fitness.  I didn't try to belittle the post in the Biden thread with a deflection back to Trump but allowed the two topics.  

toomuchbaloney said:

Why? The option to Biden is Trump and if Biden's gaffes are evidence that he's unfit then it's absolutely fair to compare them.  

Probably because this is the Biden thread and there is a Trump thread and election thread and I feel if someone wants to talk about Biden in the Biden thread, it should be respected without changing the subject.  But you already know how I am.  LOL

I don't disagree that comparing the two isn't appropriate.

Tweety said:

Probably because this is the Biden thread and there is a Trump thread and election thread and I feel if someone wants to talk about Biden in the Biden thread, it should be respected without changing the subject.  But you already know how I am.  LOL

I don't disagree that comparing the two isn't appropriate.

We can talk about Biden.  It's not changing the subject to point out that Biden is no more confused or gaffe ridden than his republican opponent.  It's not changing the subject to note that Biden might forget things but he isn't lying about elections or suggesting that we suspend the constitution.  

A example of changing the subject is to take discussion of Trump's character flaws into a multi page essay on Biden's stutter, which is not a character flaw.  

Tweety said:

Fair enough.  

You may or may not have noticed, I responded to the same post with a post of my own in the Trump thread about his mental fitness.  I didn't try to belittle the post in the Biden thread with a deflection back to Trump but allowed the two topics.  

The problem for me is that insisting that I split a particular line of thought between two different threads is like running two rapid responses in different rooms at the same time. I've done it and so have you. Not sustainable.

So ... I have to post in one thread or another, but not both. I also think that deflection is not the same as making connections.

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heron said:

The problem for me is that insisting that I split a particular line of thought between two different threads is like running two rapid responses in different rooms at the same time. I've done it and so have you. Not sustainable.

So ... I have to post in one thread or another, but not both. I also think that deflection is not the same as making connections.

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I'm not insisting anything. I'm giving an opinion and I told you how I handled it by leaving the discussion about Biden alone without changing it to Trump and making a separate subject about Trump in the thread about Trump (which was totally ignored) because it's a separate topic in my mind.  I know I'm a hypocrite because I don't always do that 100% of the time but I do try to allow someone to state their opinion without a a "what about Trump".

You do can do you and "make connections" any way you please.  

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Beerman said:

Did you not hear what the Special Prosecutor's report said?

No reason outside of his political role for us to worry???

Oh wow....

Isn't that the very reason we all should worry?

I read what the special prosecutor said.  No, it's not a reason to worry.  Just like Comey's similar editorializing before the 2016 election didn't make most of us worry about Clinton then.  Just imagine if the popular vote winner in 2016 had become president. Our experience with the pandemic would have been completely different. So many lives might have been saved.  

Biden is on a good trajectory to repeat his victory over Trump in November.  The nastiness in social media will ramp up as the foreign actors increase their muck raking to benefit Trump. Fortunately, more people are aware, now, of these authoritarian tactics than they were in 2016 or 2020. Team Biden will be benefiting from the angry chaos that swirls around Trump.