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After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

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Tweety said:

I plan on seeing that movie.

The unintended thing was they provided the public with a robust Biden, but the real idea was almost a "how dare he be so casual with this scandal".  

One of my patients was watching Fox News and they had several stories on how awful Biden is, how poorly Harris is doing in the polls, how bad the economy is under Biden, blah blah blah.  There was one story that he was retouching his photos to appear more youthful.  Trump was criticized for doctoring his photos to make himself thinner, so I guess that's fair.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12362001/Biden-allies-PHOTOSHOPPING-images-80-year-old-president-make-look-younger.html

It's just a photograph in a random tweet, not a news photo nor an official photo.  The Daily Mail is opining about this?  I have a family member photographer at the Getty.  I'll ask him if it's possible that a Getty Image could have been tampered with with.legally.  Looks more like the tweeter could have done this himself.  The picture of Trump looks like a cheesier job.  I guess the DM couldn't notice?

 

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subee said:

It's just a photograph in a random tweet, not a news photo nor an official photo.  The Daily Mail is opining about this?  I have a family member photographer at the Getty.  I'll ask him if it's possible that a Getty Image could have been tampered with with.legally.  Looks more like the tweeter could have done this himself.  The picture of Trump looks like a cheesier job.  I guess the DM couldn't notice?

 

I heard about it on Fox News and Googled it and chose the Daily Mail out of the pages talking about it.  So it is newsworthy.  

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Pffff.... so some supporters of Biden are posting comparison shots of Biden  --  regular weight for his height compared to Trump - overweight appearance often with ill fitted clothes, its not the White House, Biden Campaign or close associates.  Youngest generation is used to using picture filters when posting content, I don't see a significant difference from original source. There is a striking difference on physique that Republicans don't seem to mind.

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Tweety said:

I heard about it on Fox News and Googled it and chose the Daily Mail out of the pages talking about it.  So it is newsworthy.  

The Daily Mail and Fox News  may consider it newsworthy but I don't since we know nothing about the authencity of these photographs.  It's more like the quality of  celebrity plastic surgery before and after photos.

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What is the Biden administration doing for these families?  Apparently,  nothing.

"The families of the 13 U.S. service members killed outside of Kabul's airport during the military's withdrawal from Afghanistan came before Congress together for the first time this week to seek answers about their loved ones' deaths, nearly two years after the tragic day occurred.

Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., held a congressional forum with the Gold Star families on Monday, where for nearly 90 minutes Americans heard emotional testimony about how the grieving families felt mislead and betrayed by their own government.

Several called out President Biden and his top Cabinet officials by name, calling on them to resign. A father of one fallen U.S. Marine called on the president to "be a grown a-- man."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/most-heart-wrenching-moments-from-gold-star-families-testimony-on-kabul-attack

 

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So what exactly are the families asking for? Which cabinet members are they expecting to resign? Secretary Austin? I believe the commandant of the Marines has retired ( Tuberville is blocking replacement). How does the president act like a grown man? What does that even mean? That sucks that parents think they were lied to, but that won't bring back the deceased. 

At least the administration is not using the families' grief to score political points. 

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nursej22 said:

So what exactly are the families asking for? Which cabinet members are they expecting to resign? Secretary Austin? I believe the commandant of the Marines has retired ( Tuberville is blocking replacement). How does the president act like a grown man? What does that even mean? That sucks that parents think they were lied to, but that won't bring back the deceased. 

At least the administration is not using the families' grief to score political points. 

Seems a bit unclear.  One was upset her son was told he died instantly when he didn't.  One was upset the withdrawal was called a success when their child's death occurred and was preventable.   Others seem to want accountability because in aftermath they weren't given good information, but I'm not sure how that should be done or what's the information and details they seek.

 They seem to want to know all the details, mistakes, and want an admission from Biden that he killed their children and they were lied to.

The Afghanistan and the aftermath tragedies will forever stain the Biden legacy.   

The cynic in me wonders that while I'm happy these people feel they have a forum, why would a republican hold such a forum when in April of this year the Biden issued statements of his administrations mistakes and taking responsibility (although he gave some of the responsibility to the prior administration).  It's fair on the campaign trail to bring it up, but also what would have done different, what have we learned, and how can it not happen again, and we need to move on.

 

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Tweety said:

Seems a bit unclear.  One was upset her son was told he died instantly when he didn't.  One was upset the withdrawal was called a success when their child's death occurred and was preventable.   Others seem to want accountability because in aftermath they weren't given good information, but I'm not sure how that should be done or what's the information and details they seek.

 They seem to want to know all the details, mistakes, and want an admission from Biden that he killed their children and they were lied to.

The Afghanistan and the aftermath tragedies will forever stain the Biden legacy.   

The cynic in me wonders that while I'm happy these people feel they have a forum, why would a republican hold such a forum when in April of this year the Biden issued statements of his administrations mistakes and taking responsibility (although he gave some of the responsibility to the prior administration).  It's fair on the campaign trail to bring it up, but also what would have done different, what have we learned, and how can it not happen again, and we need to move on.

 

The cynic in you noticed that the entire thing was orchestrated by a republican representative and held in California while congress is on a break.  The cynic in you noticed that it was a "conservative" political exercise which used grieving military families as political pawns to try to damage the Biden presidency and hurt his reelection odds. 

 

 

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Tweety said:

 

The cynic in me wonders that while I'm happy these people feel they have a forum, why would a republican hold such a forum when in April of this year the Biden issued statements of his administrations mistakes and taking responsibility (although he gave some of the responsibility to the prior administration).  It's fair on the campaign trail to bring it up, but also what would have done different, what have we learned, and how can it not happen again, and we need to move on.

 

The party of grievances and victimhood cannot not and will not move on. I don't recall democrats carrying on about the needless losses under the former guys' watch. 

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nursej22 said:

The party of grievances and victimhood cannot not and will not move on. I don't recall democrats carrying on about the needless losses under the former guys' watch. 

Have an example of what you mean?

All 13 families were there at this event.  It would be quite a coincidence that all of them were, before this tragedy,  Biden critics.  

 

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Beerman said:

All 13 families were there at this event.  It would be quite a coincidence that all of them were, before this tragedy,  Biden critics.  

 

 

We're not really talking about the families.  They have every right to be angry and Biden critics.  Many of us in the middle and left, including myself if you remember my posts at the time, were Biden critics regarding this tragedy. 

Obviously no one can criticize someone that lost someone in that debacle.  The Republican knows this.  I'm just not understanding why the Republican felt the need to hold such a forum all this time later, and after the 2023 report taking responsibility.  It just breaks open a scab we need to heal from.  I'm sure the timing of waiting until he announced his candidacy had nothing to do with it.

But then again, maybe the families asked for the forum and she was just the vessel for their complaints.  If they had something they needed to say, they deserve to be heard.  Regardless of the motivation behind the forum none of their pain, frustration and anger is made up.

This is what her page said "Rep. Issa is convening a congressional forum for the Gold Star families of the fallen in Afghanistan. For the first time, these family members will be testifying in public as they seek answers and accountability for the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan during which our 13 servicemembers were lost. RSVPs are kindly requested but not required."

 

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nursej22 said:

The party of grievances and victimhood cannot not and will not move on. I don't recall democrats carrying on about the needless losses under the former guys' watch. 

I think he's a bit lucky that he didn't have this sort of debacle or a Benghazi which some congressional committees investigated for four years even after Mrs. Clinton admitted responsibility and flaws in her department, and accepted all the changes an accountability committee recommended.  But her emails.......

 

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