President Biden thread

3 hours ago, Beerman said:

Assuming it's not dementia,  it must be the other.  Don't forget, he has a decades long history of lying.

This, below, sure sounds like him:

"If you have a pattern of pathological lying, you may:

• lie indiscriminately about a wide range of topics
• tell untruths about minor events
• feel undeterred by the fear of getting caught
• experience a rush when you get away with lying
• continue to lie even when confronted with the truth

“It’s a sign when someone consistently tells stories about extreme, abnormal, or unlikely events that they were involved in,” says Dr. Kyle Zrenchik, a therapist in Minnetonka, Minnesota. “Like befriending celebrities, witnessing a kidnapping, winning a major award, or losing both parents during childhood.”

You may be talking with a pathological liar if you notice:

• extensive and unrequested details
• colorful, fantastical, dramatic narratives
• repeated changes to the story
• signs of anxiety while talking
• defensiveness when confronted
• dodging questions or providing vague answers
• your recollection of events is different from theirs "

https://psychcentral.com/health/signs-pathological-liar#signs-of-a-pathological-liar

 

I started to look up the definition myself.  But I don't know the man well enough to say that "looks like him" except from the armchair.   I do think some of those qualities might apply to him.  But yes he's been caught making things up that make no sense.

2 hours ago, subee said:

Isn't the Republican hypocrisy amazing?  The same states that wanted no Covid restrictions the same states that want to deport migrants back to Mexico under Title 42.  

I said that a long while back when the topic first came up that how ironic it was that Republicans wanted to keep in place a covid restriction long after they've removed them for the rest of us in the US.  DeSantis who bragged about how he kept Florida free from covid restrictions criticized it's potential removal back in April.

Also it's interesting that the Trump administration of all administrations started this at the same time criticized covid restrictions in the border especially in places like Michigan (remember "free Michigan" Tweet").  His intent was clear and it wasn't about covid.

I don't think the public really knows much about Title 42 except that since it's Biden's idea to stop it and it will mean more people at the border it's bad that he's doing this, even though it's never been a policy before covid.

At the end of the day one can't argue that it's removal, if it happens, is going to be a problem.

5 hours ago, Beerman said:

I give you credit for realizing it'd be foolish to argue against my assessment that Biden is a pathological liar.

Progress.

I give you credit for consistently claiming to know the thinking, realizations or intentions of other members regardless of their actual comments to the contrary.  

Predictable. 

On 12/16/2022 at 7:39 AM, Tweety said:

Things like compassion, opportunity and freedom.  

Those are not reasons to grant amnesty to millions of people.  They aren't even a reason to grant asylum. 

On 12/17/2022 at 9:35 AM, subee said:

Isn't the Republican hypocrisy amazing?  The same states that wanted no Covid restrictions the same states that want to deport migrants back to Mexico under Title 42.  

How long has title 42 been on the books?  Your comparing US Citizens to illegals.  Apples and oranges.

1 hour ago, MaybeeRN said:

How long has title 42 been on the books?  Your comparing US Citizens to illegals.  Apples and oranges.

LOL

It's been on the books since the 1940s. She's comparing transmission of disease and humans are humans in that regard.  

5 hours ago, MaybeeRN said:

Those are not reasons to grant amnesty to millions of people.  They aren't even a reason to grant asylum. 

No where in this discussion or the post you quoted from me was amnesty brought up.

17 minutes ago, Beerman said:

The Kristin Sinema proposal included a path to citizenship for about 2 million DACA people.  I don't know the details, but some were equating it to amnesty.

Again, the post I made that was quoted made no mention of amnesty.

DACA qualifiers are not a part of the border problem which is what we are talking about.   But perhaps they are also being addressed by politicians when talking immigration reform overall.

https://www.uscis.gov/DACA

But sure, there are many people, including myself,  that think that people that were brought here as kids illegally through no choice of their own, raised here and are productive people in our society should not be deported.  Separate discussion but call it amnesty, I'm fine with that.  It's not a dirty word to me.

They are a separate population than the people crowding the border in the here and now.

Comparing Trump to Biden is like comparing comparing Herod I (who became nuts when he got older) to a uncle who says stupid things when he's drunk. Which one is evil and which one is RELATIVELY harmless?  Compared to the other countries coming out of the pandemic, our problems are pretty trivial for most people in the USA.  Of course, for the people who are unhappy with a country that's always changing in terms of ethnicity or religion or lack of religion,  we are just coming apart at the seams because whatever problem the Republicans have contrived for the day.  If Trump weren't so emotionally narcissistic and childish, he would have gone back to work at Trump Org, cheating on his taxes, lying about his extreme wealth, etc.  Now it's up to the Republicans to put him away.  If they can't, it only reflects on their inability to make any progress in their party.  Ben Sasse is leaving which is a loss for them.  If they appoint an election denier nut job in his place, it will only hurt their party further.  But they are a very red state and probably took to heart,  Trump's shooting yourself in the foot seminar.  He is going to the University of Florida where I hope he will spend his time humiliating their governor who is the antithesis of what the U of Fla. stands for.

20 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Again, the post I made that was quoted made no mention of amnesty.

DACA qualifiers are not a part of the border problem which is what we are talking about.   But perhaps they are also being addressed by politicians when talking immigration reform overall.

https://www.uscis.gov/DACA

But sure, there are many people, including myself,  that think that people that were brought here as kids illegally through no choice of their own, raised here and are productive people in our society should not be deported.  Separate discussion but call it amnesty, I'm fine with that.  It's not a dirty word to me.

They are a separate population than the people crowding the border in the here and now.

The anti-DACA people use the amnesty term exclusively but it's really just a de-facto amnesty.  A crime has to be commited first before amnesty can be granted.  If you believe that a fetus is a person and your mother was pregnant when they arrived here illegally, yeah, I guess one could call the fetus guilty and deport him along with the toddlers and adolescents that arrived with their parents.  Deportations of DACA's surged during Trump's administration (did he really administrate anything?).  Some of these young people don't even speak Spanish well enough to attend schools or colleges in Mexico.  Yeah, let's get them out of the country instead of figuring out a may to make sure that deported criminals don't get back in multiple times.