President Biden thread

6 hours ago, nursej22 said:

As are Republicans. Have they proposed any legislation or suggested some sort of bipartisan workgroup? Now that they are in control Congress I’m sure (sarcasm) they will offer all sorts of solutions. 

They didn’t cause the problem so why do they need to fix it?

1 hour ago, MaybeeRN said:

They didn’t cause the problem so why do they need to fix it?

They were elected to govern, that's why. We pay them $174,000 a year to create laws and oversee administration of those laws. Why did you vote they way you did? Was it just to obstruct or overthrow? Or did you actually think your representative and senators would actually do something? Mine have passed the CHIPS act, infrastructure, marriage equality, inflation reduction act, Emmett Till anti-lynching act, and invested an attempted overthrow of the government. 

10 hours ago, Beerman said:

How about some consequences and wiping out the incentives to coming here illegally? 

That'd be a good place to start.  

 

Things like compassion, opportunity and freedom.  Things like that?  Yeah a middle school student would come up with that.

10 hours ago, Beerman said:

Many of us knew this crisis was coming.  So did the Biden Administration. 

I said before he doesn't care.  I'll amend that and say there is another possibility.  Gross incompetence.

From a year and a half ago:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-border-surge/2021/03/20/21824e94-8818-11eb-8a8b-5cf82c3dffe4_story.html

Yes.  It was talked about even during the election how people were forming caravans and there would be a surge.  There's no way Biden didn't know about it.  

11 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

My comment that you quoted was directed at Beerman.  I quoted Beerman in the remark.  

Thanks. I thought it was Beerman talking to me.  Not sure how that conclusion happened, but in my defense I had a fever of 101.7 last night.  Hopefully it was a good post anyway.  LOL

Obviously there's a surge at the Border and obviously it's needs to be dealt with.  But really it's not like Biden is sitting up in Delaware ignoring the situation.  Obviously his actions aren't pleasing to Republicans and obviously isn't stopping the surge.

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While Donald Trump’s presidency is perceived as being the most active on immigration, touching nearly every aspect of the U.S. immigration system, President Joe Biden’s administration has far outpaced his predecessor in the number of executive actions taken during his first year in office. Yet the Biden administration’s pace of change has largely gone unnoticed, with immigrant-rights activists accusing it of going too slowly to unravel Trump actions and conservatives harshly critical of what they see as inattention to rising flows at the U.S.-Mexico border.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-one-year-mark

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The Biden administration instructed immigration agents to focus on deporting undocumented immigrants who have been convicted of felonies or pose a danger to public safety. Texas filed a lawsuit saying the change was illegal.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/11/29/supreme-court-texas-biden-immigration-policy/

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In the year since he was elected U.S. president, Joe Biden has greedily seized Barack Obama’s mantle as “deporter-in-chief.” His administration’s policy towards Haitians and other asylum seekers has been notable for a racist callousness of a stunning scale. The Quixote Center reported that on January 12, 2022–the mournful,  twelfth anniversary of the earthquake that devastated Port-au-Prince and killed 200,000 people–the U.S. celebrated by expelling 443 Haitian asylum seekers, sending them on three flights to Haiti.

https://mronline.org/2022/01/21/the-700000-club/

Apparently though the administration's focusing on "quality, not quantity in deportations" and deportations are lower.

It's a mess for sure.  Again, I'm only reporting what I see and my thoughts about the issue are fluid as time goes on.  

44 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Things like compassion, opportunity and freedom.  Things like that?  Yeah a middle school student would come up with that.

Yes.  It was talked about even during the election how people were forming caravans and there would be a surge.  There's no way Biden didn't know about it.  

Thanks. I thought it was Beerman talking to me.  Not sure how that conclusion happened, but in my defense I had a fever of 101.7 last night.  Hopefully it was a good post anyway.  LOL

Obviously there's a surge at the Border and obviously it's needs to be dealt with.  But really it's not like Biden is sitting up in Delaware ignoring the situation.  Obviously his actions aren't pleasing to Republicans and obviously isn't stopping the surge.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-one-year-mark

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/11/29/supreme-court-texas-biden-immigration-policy/

https://mronline.org/2022/01/21/the-700000-club/

Apparently though the administration's focusing on "quality, not quantity in deportations" and deportations are lower.

It's a mess for sure.  Again, I'm only reporting what I see and my thoughts about the issue are fluid as time goes on.  

Yes. In the world where congressional members prefer to use immigration issues and the border as little more than campaign rhetoric or photo ops the situation isn't going to improve.  As climate change displaces people our border will remain congested while it appears that our political leadership is more invested in immigration theater than in immigration reform. But it's another conservative grievance that they can tape to Biden's resume... even when the facts don't exactly match the complaints and feelings. 

25 minutes ago, Beerman said:

You've said something needs to be done.  Do you have better ideas?

No.  Unlike most of the country apparently, I'm not an expert on immigration policy and law.   And I'm sure you've noticed I'm not as passionate about this issue as I might be others.

I understand discussing ideas in a message board might be valuable and I like that.

 Still me saying "something needs to be done about the border" is kind of like me saying "we need universal healthcare" or "we need to protect the environment".  I see a need but don't have the actual solution.   Is that wrong?  I feel like I can make a comment on the thousands of people on the border without having to have ideas to fix it.  

Actually a lot of politicians do this as well.  Blame Biden, fair enough, and say something has to be done, fair enough again,  and then stop.  This I don't exactly like since they are the one's whose job it is to come up with a plan.  

3 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Yes. In the world where congressional members prefer to use immigration issues and the border as little more than campaign rhetoric or photo ops the situation isn't going to improve.  

I think with one cycle finished and another approaching it really isn't going to go away.  

57 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I think with one cycle finished and another approaching it really isn't going to go away.  

Why would politicians want it to go away when the issue is such a good campaign and complaint topic as it currently is? The republican conference published this.

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Stuck in the minority for four years, they’re eager to restart construction on former President Donald Trump’s border wall and undo Biden-era immigration policies. They also want to ramp up accountability for Biden administration officials such as Mayorkas, whom they blame for historically high border crossings.

More of that accountability language from the party that wouldn't hold Trump accountable in real time for abuse of power.