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After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

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I think that what is being ignored in this debate is the historic defunding of higher education in this country and the diversion of taxpayer assistance for lower income people into the pockets of profit-driven corporations.

Public funding of education from pre-K through post-doc has been relentlessly attacked over the last 50 years. There have been a multitude of excuses for this but what it boils down to is the goal of keeping the American electorate as ignorant as possible.

My college education consists of 4 years earning 2 associate degrees. I attended 2 different schools, one year at a private church-run school, 3 years at a local community college. The total bill for all of it came to under $5K for tuition, books, housing and fees at the private school. My ADN cost $1500, total. What do you think has happened to change the picture so drastically?

The long term effects of recent “conservative” efforts is to keep significant portions of the electorate poor, ignorant, hate-full and pregnant.

Cui bono?

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8 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Sounds like they have a plan for these student loans at this time. I'm certain that the party of law and order will make lots of noise if this appears on wobbly legal ground... right? 

It is refreshing that you seem interested now in whether or not a president is contemplating breaking laws

Interesting that now you don’t care about a President breaking laws.  But hey free loaders rarely when your getting those scraps.

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33 minutes ago, heron said:

I think that what is being ignored in this debate is the historic defunding of higher education in this country and the diversion of taxpayer assistance for lower income people into the pockets of profit-driven corporations.

Public funding of education from pre-K through post-doc has been relentlessly attacked over the last 50 years. There have been a multitude of excuses for this but what it boils down to is the goal of keeping the American electorate as ignorant as possible.

My college education consists of 4 years earning 2 associate degrees. I attended 2 different schools, one year at a private church-run school, 3 years at a local community college. The total bill for all of it came to under $5K for tuition, books, housing and fees at the private school. My ADN cost $1500, total. 

The long term effects of recent “conservative” efforts is to keep significant portions of the electorate poor, ignorant, hate-full and pregnant.

Cui bono?

Sorry but President Biden is doing a bang up job of keeping them poor.  Wait till next year and the global recession hits.

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43 minutes ago, MaybeeRN said:

Interesting that now you don’t care about a President breaking laws.  But hey free loaders rarely when your getting those scraps.

Nice extrapolation.  So far it's opinion and guess work that Biden has broken laws, why would I get my britches in a bind over opinion and guess work?

So you're saying that people who would accept student loan relief from the government are free loaders. 

You didn't answer my question though, why do you think that this proposal is "buying votes" from upper-class liberals?

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Speaking of freeloaders, I’m about to reread “The Conservative Nanny State: How the wealthy use the government to stay rich and get richer” by Dean Baker (an economist).

I recommend it.

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27 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Nice extrapolation.  So far it's opinion and guess work that Biden has broken laws, why would I get my britches in a bind over opinion and guess work?

So you're saying that people who would accept student loan relief from the government are free loaders. 

You didn't answer my question though, why do you think that this proposal is "buying votes" from upper-class liberals?

Where’s your evidence Trump has broken any laws?   Why do people who attended Harvard deserve a bail out?  Yes, this charity and those that accept it are freeloaders.  Like the saying goes “Democrats are the first person to give you the shirt off of someone else’s back”

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2 hours ago, heron said:

Speaking of freeloaders, I’m about to reread “The Conservative Nanny State: How the wealthy use the government to stay rich and get richer” by Dean Baker (an economist).

I recommend it.

And Giant Corporations that drive pricing sky high!

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19 minutes ago, HiddenAngels said:

And Giant Corporations that drive pricing sky high!

Yes, among other things. I really do recommend the book. Baker is a liberal and an economist who believes firmly in free market capitalism. It should be a fast read … the audiobook runs only six hours.

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3 hours ago, MaybeeRN said:

Where’s your evidence Trump has broken any laws?   Why do people who attended Harvard deserve a bail out?  Yes, this charity and those that accept it are freeloaders.  Like the saying goes “Democrats are the first person to give you the shirt off of someone else’s back”

Nah... I'll answer your questions only if you answer mine.  

Trump's republican party has many disparaging sayings about many people and things...

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23 hours ago, emtb2rn said:

I was wondering the same thing. It actually took about 5 minutes of modifying my query to find the answer (a very long search for me). Anyway, here’s the answer.

“Lisa Brown, general counsel for the Department of Education, issued a memo to Education Secretary Miguel Cardona detailing that the department planned to rely on a 2003 law known as the HEROES Act, which gives it broad authority to waive or modify student loans to alleviate hardships brought on by national emergencies. 

Brown posited that under this law, the department could use its authority to address “the financial harms caused by the COVID-19 pandemic.” ”

https://nypost.com/2022/08/24/pelosi-flip-flops-on-bidens-student-debt-forgiveness-plan/
 

As for my personal feelings on the forgiveness program, thanks for asking. While it took me 8 years to pay off my undergrad debt back in the day, I do not begrudge those who qualify for loan forgiveness.

No other education debt, grad work paid for by pre-nursing employer & nursing school paid for by combination of pre-nursing buyout package education dollars & scholarships. 

Many, many people who qualify for the Biden Loan Transfer Program, such as myself, are not experiencing a hardship.  And, there were already things in place within the student loan program for those who are.

You shouldn't begrudge those who qualify.  You should begrudge the man shifting the financial responsabilities of those who have loans to those who don't. 

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16 hours ago, heron said:

I think that what is being ignored in this debate is the historic defunding of higher education in this country and the diversion of taxpayer assistance for lower income people into the pockets of profit-driven corporations.

Public funding of education from pre-K through post-doc has been relentlessly attacked over the last 50 years. There have been a multitude of excuses for this but what it boils down to is the goal of keeping the American electorate as ignorant as possible.

My college education consists of 4 years earning 2 associate degrees. I attended 2 different schools, one year at a private church-run school, 3 years at a local community college. The total bill for all of it came to under $5K for tuition, books, housing and fees at the private school. My ADN cost $1500, total. What do you think has happened to change the picture so drastically?

The long term effects of recent “conservative” efforts is to keep significant portions of the electorate poor, ignorant, hate-full and pregnant.

Cui bono?

The cuts in govt funding for college education come nowhere near explaing the skyrocketing costs over the last 30 years.

At the same time, it's never been easier to go to college and pay for it, at least up front.  Thus, the discussion of the burdens of student loans.

Kinda nullifies your ridiculous theory about the motives of Republicans.

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The White House is calling out members of Congress, including MTG and Gaetz for having forgiveness  of PPP loans, pointing out their hypocrisy over criticizing the student loan forgiveness policy. 

 

 

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