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After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

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18 minutes ago, Beerman said:

"FBI officials told agents not to investigate first son Hunter Biden’s infamous laptop for months — vowing that the bureau was “not going to change the outcome of the election again,” according to whistleblower claims made public Wednesday by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)"

https://nypost.com/2022/08/24/fbi-warned-agents-off-hunter-biden-laptop-due-to-election-whistleblowers/

Careful with those pivots - you might break something you need.

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Is there some plan to raise taxes on the poorest Americans or are you just sad that the working poor have to pay taxes at all? It's hard to be saltier about forgiving student loans for working class Americans than we were about forgiving corporate PPP loans in 2021.  Isn't it? Don't the same poor pay for those corporate bailouts as pay for the student loan forgiveness?

Speaking as a taxpayer, even now in my retirement, I would much rather my taxes go to the benefit of students bettering themselves than to the lenders working hand in hand with for-profit schools to fleece the gov’t programs while providing little to no useful education.

I looked into this quite a few years ago the last time the subject came up on these boards. There’s a ton of info out there on the shenanigans employed by for-profit school recruiters and student loan providers. Worth a new search if you’re serious about evaluating the cost/benefit ratio of a loan forgiveness program.

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5 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Only some members might have that narrow trigger for Bot or Troll activity. 

What was the republican plan to address this problem?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2022/08/06/republicans-propose-to-end-student-loan-forgiveness-for-millions-of-borrowers/

 

What is the Republican plan?  Pay your student loans.  You took them out and no one twisted your arm.  You have a problem go talk the schools that brought on all this debt.  Sick of Democrat freeloaders trying to get the tax payers to foot the bill for their own stupidity.  Hopefully some one will sue over this as the President has zero authority to cancel debt like this.

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1 hour ago, emtb2rn said:

How does this occur? Are you saying bernie & liz are advocating for the government to take control of the means of production?

Yeah, democratic socialism is horrible, just look at the interstate highway system. Damn commies. 

In the interest of my time, and my interest..ha, don't really want to go down that road right now.  My bad for bringing it up.

If you're so inclined, would love your thoughts on the Biden Student Loan Transfer Program. 

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15 minutes ago, MaybeeRN said:

What is the Republican plan?  Pay your student loans.  You took them out and no one twisted your arm.  You have a problem go talk the schools that brought on all this debt.  Sick of Democrat freeloaders trying to get the tax payers to foot the bill for their own stupidity.  Hopefully some one will sue over this as the President has zero authority to cancel debt like this.

Yes, I agree.  

The real problem, though, is the actual cost of college.  And the costs really started to skyrocket when it became easier to take out huge loans and get grants to pay for college.  Sort of like when the govt prints trillions of dollars,we get inflation.

The Democrats will never want to address that end of the problem.  Too much of academia is made up of their supporters.

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43 minutes ago, heron said:

Speaking as a taxpayer, even now in my retirement, I would much rather my taxes go to the benefit of students bettering themselves than to the lenders working hand in hand with for-profit schools to fleece the gov’t programs while providing little to no useful education.

I looked into this quite a few years ago the last time the subject came up on these boards. There’s a ton of info out there on the shenanigans employed by for-profit school recruiters and student loan providers. Worth a new search if you’re serious about evaluating the cost/benefit ratio of a loan forgiveness program.

Those are two separate issues.

How do you think the small business person who took out loans to start a business instead of going to college feels?  How about those grads who worked two jobs to pay off their loans quickly?  The WalMart clerk who never went to college?

Between my wife and I, we didn't go to nursing school until later in life, still have about 17k in student loans.  I could log on right now and pay it off and not give it a second thought.  Instead, im going to go pack so I can eat, drink, and have fun in Vegas this weekend. 

You're good with your taxes going to benefit me in that manner?

Yes, I am interested in the cost/benefit analysis.

 

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33 minutes ago, MaybeeRN said:

What is the Republican plan?  Pay your student loans.  You took them out and no one twisted your arm.  You have a problem go talk the schools that brought on all this debt.  Sick of Democrat freeloaders trying to get the tax payers to foot the bill for their own stupidity.  Hopefully some one will sue over this as the President has zero authority to cancel debt like this.

Oh yeah... the party of personal accountability.  How could I forget. 

28 minutes ago, Beerman said:

In the interest of my time, and my interest..ha, don't really want to go down that road right now.  My bad for bringing it up.

If you're so inclined, would love your thoughts on the Biden Student Loan Transfer Program. 

But didn't you want thoughts on the post you offered? 

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4 hours ago, Beerman said:

So, I'm curious.  What gives Biden the legal authority to cancel debt that is owed to the US taxpayer?

 

Hmm, just wondering, has anyone done any research on this?

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15 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Yes, I agree.  

The real problem, though, is the actual cost of college.  And the costs really started to skyrocket when it became easier to take out huge loans and get grants to pay for college.  Sort of like when the govt prints trillions of dollars,we get inflation.

The Democrats will never want to address that end of the problem.  Too much of academia is made up of their supporters.

Do you have a crystal ball? 

I could just as easily say that Republicans won't address any aspect of the problem.  They don't seem to mind when access to education or healthcare is limited by financial resources for the majority of the public.  

1 minute ago, Beerman said:

Hmm, just wondering, has anyone done any research on this?

Surely the member who mentioned it did some research.  

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2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Is there some plan to raise taxes on the poorest Americans or are you just sad that the working poor have to pay taxes at all? It's hard to be saltier about forgiving student loans for working class Americans than we were about forgiving corporate PPP loans in 2021.  Isn't it? Don't the same poor pay for those corporate bailouts as pay for the student loan forgiveness?

Those loans were worse and yes the same poor will be on the hook for those loans.

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7 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Do you have a crystal ball? 

I could just as easily say that Republicans won't address any aspect of the problem.  They don't seem to mind when access to education or healthcare is limited by financial resources for the majority of the public.  

Surely the member who mentioned it did some research.  

The problem lies with universities and idiotic borrowers getting worthless degrees.  It should be done similar to how the financing is done in Great Britain.  The onus is placed on the university.

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10 minutes ago, MaybeeRN said:

Those loans were worse and yes the same poor will be on the hook for those loans.

Yes, I don't know anyone here who touted them as a good thing.

Another post that's nothing more than a tired attempt at deflection.

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