President Biden thread

19 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

Typical protocol has always been that the President doesn't get out in front of the military and apologize for something on their behalf, if that had happened, that would be the scandal and a valid one at that.  

It seems that the military advised him and he didn't listen or understand or whichever. So how is it a military scandal.  He needs to speak about himself and the choices he made. Not for the military for himself. 

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Biden did address the nation in that time of tragedy and human loss. He does take non scripted questions from the press, just not as often as his critics would prefer. 

Biden displayed some emotion about that incident with the Texas border patrol.  It's sort of hypocritical for a Trump supporter to mention the appearance of throwing someone under a bus.  Maybe you aren't aware of that historical and consistent behavior from Trump, eh? That's why you accuse Biden of that now, because you aren't aware that Trump always has a scapegoat.  Always. Besides, Biden has exactly zero to do worth the regional decision to use horses for that purpose...you know that right?

I'm surprised that you are concerned about a POTUS saying an unkind thing about the press. There is no obligation to turn presidential events into media circuses.

You don't need to hypothesize about my response to Trump's particular brand of corrupt and incompetent leadership. Trump's four years of chaotic presidency were filled with lies, incompetence, grifting and chaos. I shared my concerns and horror regularly. You could review those threads.  

Trump bashing and avoiding the question...... Answered my question!! 

3 minutes ago, Cclm said:

It seems that the military advised him and he didn't listen or understand or whichever. So how is it a military scandal.  He needs to speak about himself and the choices he made. Not for the military for himself. 

Are you referring to leaving troops in Afghanistan or the airstrike?  The airstrike wasn't a choice "he made".  

As for leaving troops in Afghanistan I don't necessarily fault military leaders for making that suggestion, their role is to spread the US military all over the planet.  It's not uncommon for the military to push to put some token amount of troops somewhere since that will inevitably be dangerously insufficient and we'll be forced to massively expand troop levels.

I don't disagree though with the decision to withdrawl all troops after more than 20 years and no longer making any progress.  I don't disagree when Trump made the decision to pull all US troops and I don't disagree with Biden agreeing with that decision.

2 minutes ago, Cclm said:

Trump bashing and avoiding the question...... Answered my question!! 

How do I avoid your question and answer it at the same time? I took the time to consider and publish a response to your remarks and question. Why is commenting about Trump critically considered "bashing" but your criticisms of Biden are not? 

Do you believe that the tone of your post comes off as agitated or combative? Do you view us as opponents and this discussion a form of battle or contest?

14 minutes ago, Cclm said:

It seems that the military advised him and he didn't listen or understand or whichever. So how is it a military scandal.  He needs to speak about himself and the choices he made. Not for the military for himself. 

That's your opinion.

It seems that the president was broadly and well advised. The military leadership testified that they provided assessments, contingency plans and a wide range of options for Afghanistan priority or policy. Certainly some of that discussion included the option to maintain a small contingent.  That was not presented as a long term strategy.  Some of the discussion included the option to end American presence in the country as planned for since 2020.

The civilian leadership opted for the long term strategy of ending that unnecessary military exercise and expenditure. I understand this from Biden's individual and white house communication.  

7 hours ago, Cclm said:

Fair enough. I'm just holding Biden to the standard Trump would be.But hardly because if this was Trump, imagine the theatrics. Impeachment, FB investigation , special congress hearing ...... ..

 

 

I might have told another member but I will repeat,  that I don't participate in "what if it was the other guy...." fantasy scenerios.

Clearly, by now you've made you're point that there are people in this thread that Trump bash.  Next......

3 hours ago, Tweety said:

 

I might have told another member but I will repeat,  that I don't participate in "what if it was the other guy...." fantasy scenerios.

Clearly, by now you've made you're point that there are people in this thread that Trump bash.  Next......

Perfect!! 

18 hours ago, Cclm said:

Perfect!! 

Is the blatant double standard and devaluation of opinion by certain members point made as well? 

16 hours ago, Cclm said:

Is the blatant double standard and devaluation of opinion by certain members point made as well? 

Only if the opinions are based in fantasy.  Meanwhile, Lindsey Graham is booed by his own party for recommending old people take the vaccine!  Republicans have gone nuts.  Opinion or fact?

11 minutes ago, subee said:

... Republicans have gone nuts.  Opinion or fact?

Some Republicans have.

5 minutes ago, chare said:

Some Republicans have.

One or two or three nuts - okay.  But this is the 2nd audience that I know of that has booed a Republican in the "leader" category over the vaccine.  It makes us look like a confederacy of idiots to the rest of the world....and they would be right in judging us to have a huge underclass of morons who have fallen under the spell of the cult of the personality.  If would be great if we could have at least a single political party that was actually working for the benefit of our citizens.