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Wow.  No one has started such a thread yet?

After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

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1 hour ago, Beerman said:

I voted for Trump.  Wore a mask.  Was vaccinated the first week they were out.

Then, those other variables, such as Cuomo's nursing home directives.

And, don't forget the Trump administration cleared the way for fast development of the vaccines.

So, how many deaths you think Biden would have been responsible for if had been in office?  How do arrive at such a figure?

Biden would have been responsible for fewer deaths because he would not have placed politics in the middle of the pandemic response and he wouldn't have lied to the American public about the gravity of the pandemic...like Trump did.  

I'll let you guess how many people died or suffered from covid because they trusted Trump.

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59 minutes ago, chare said:

Then please don't quote me and ask questions that aren't directed to me.

Then direct this to those that, in your opinion are displaying one.

Regarding the botched extraction.  I doubt, had he done implemented it during his administration, the Mr. Trump would have had any better success.

I agree.  And, in my opinion, there are many on both sides of the aisle, to include some on this site, that are guilty of this.

I will quote and question whom ever I prefer.  You get to choose whether or not to respond. Your extrapolation and interpretation of comments are your own. 

Trump did contribute to the withdrawal mess.  There are consequences to breaking visa processes and refusing to process any Afghanistan VISA applications after negotiating with the Taliban.  There's no evidence that Trump would have executed some grand plan...unless that plan looked like Trump's plan for healthcare or infrastructure or tax reform for the working class...

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1 hour ago, Beerman said:

Well, now some Americans are dead.  If he wasn't failing before, he is now.

Sorry, today is a family day and it's all about England and Joe Root. 

India is playing England in the north of England, my father's area, at cricket and no one has gone to work, because we have been watching television all day! 

Proper English breakfast and a Sunday roast on a Thursday and cricket. My mother is as happy as Larry, hen picking everyone. No news watched and lots of family fun and arguing! ?‍?‍?❤️????

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Biden would have been responsible for fewer deaths because he would not have placed politics in the middle of the pandemic response and he wouldn't have lied to the American public about the gravity of the pandemic...like Trump did.  

What is that opinion based on?  Other national and local Democrat leaders played politics and lied.

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1 minute ago, Beerman said:

What is that opinion based on?  Other national and local Democrat leaders played politics and lied.

The New England Journal of Medicine editorial board identified Trump's incompetence and malfeasance last year.  They described the vacuum of leadership which resulted in tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths.  

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58 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

The New England Journal of Medicine editorial board identified Trump's incompetence and malfeasance last year.  They described the vacuum of leadership which resulted in tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths.  

Haven't you read recent posts directed at me about how editorials aren't really worth much to the crowd in these discussions.

Never the less, I'd love to read that if you could provide a link.

Wow, though.  We've already gone from 600,000 to tens of thousands.

Cuomo himself can take blame for tens of thousands, and he wrote a book about his leadership at the same time.

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3 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Trump did contribute to the withdrawal mess.  There are consequences to breaking visa processes and refusing to process any Afghanistan VISA applications after negotiating with the Taliban.  There's no evidence that Trump would have executed some grand plan..

No, Trump did not contribute to the ongoing catastrophe that is the exit/withdrawal/surrender that is Aftganistan. And, if you think there was something to be done differently why didn't Biden do just that. That aside, Biden, as commander in chief, completely botched it from the beginning. He moved the conditional date of exit from May to Sept, withdrew military personnel prior to Americans and allies, and prior to either taking US weapons (worth billions) or destroying them, which will now be in the hands of terriosts. Instead of sending out our troops to search and rescue our citizens and allies Biden decided to let the terrorists act as security guards to decide who gets through check points, and even gave the Taliban the names of Americans to let through. Incompetent and disgusting! His speech today was, as usual, was ridiculous. He continues to project weakness. He says he takes responsibility, then blames Trump, then says it was time to get out. He cant get it together and this is bad for the innocent people in Aftganistan as well as us here in the US. Trump did execute a plan but Biden did not follow it, the blame is all on Biden. The Dems need to stop playing politics and get the job done, oh wait too late. 

Total dead today, 13 service people, 60 Aftgans.

The Biden admin better get it together!!

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The attacks killed 13 American service members and wounded 18 others. The troops were part of Operation Allies Refuge, the mission to evacuate from Kabul Americans, allies and Afghan partners who helped the U.S. during its 20-year war there. The blasts also killed at least 60 Afghans and wounded several dozen more, according to press reports. 

“To those who carried out this attack, as well as any who wishes America harm, know this: we will not forgive,” Biden said. “We will not forget. We will hunt you down and make you pay.”

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Where have I heard this before?

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6 hours ago, Beerman said:

Maybe they could stop at the border on the way back, if it's not too much trouble?

What do you expect them to do at the border?  

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5 minutes ago, nursel56 said:

What do you expect them to do at the border?  

Their job!!

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7 minutes ago, nursel56 said:

What do you expect them to do at the border?  

Photo opportunities...that's what the visits are for. 

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26 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

No, Trump did not contribute to the ongoing catastrophe that is the exit/withdrawal/surrender that is Aftganistan.

Your ability to absolve Trump of all accoubtability and responsibility for Afghanistan is remarkable. 

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