President Biden thread

2 minutes ago, Beerman said:

That one line he had to read of the teleprompter was nice.  Of course, everything else he says and does, and those who defend him here, would suggest he doesn't accept responsibility.

 

LOL

Why do you care? The last guy flat out said that he didn't accept any accountability for anything and you were cool with that...now all of a sudden when a guy says he accepts responsibility you are troubled that your media portrays him as unaccountable? Seems inconsistent. 

2 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Well, now some Americans are dead.  If he wasn't failing before, he is now.

So when 600k Americans died on Trump's watch does that make Trump's covid response a failure in your view also? Death = failure

10 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Sleepy Joe headed to California, too.  

Maybe they could stop at the border on the way back, if it's not too much trouble?

That probably would be too much trouble even though Harris was supposed to be in charge of the border  crisis.

9 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Well, now some Americans are dead.  If he wasn't failing before, he is now.

He was of course failing before and although he said he takes blame his actions say otherwise, and he also continues to lie about the current situation (among others as well). The current admin needs to step up fast to prevent more deaths in Aftganistan as well as here in the US.

Death toll for US service up to 12 now...

3 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

That probably would be too much trouble even though Harris was supposed to be in charge of the border  crisis.

Well we all know that putting the VP in charge of something is just a way to remove the POTUS from accountability, right? Isn't that what we learned with Pence being in charge of covid in recent history? This must be more of that attitude and leadership, right? 

52 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

So when 600k Americans died on Trump's watch does that make Trump's covid response a failure in your view also? Death = failure

This has got to be the height of chutzpah.  You, among others, blamed Mr. Trump for every COVID death.   And now, when asked about Mr. Biden's responsibility in the deaths of these American servicemembers, you immediately deflect to Mr. Trumps COVID performance.

1 minute ago, chare said:

This has got to be the height of chutzpah.  You, among others, blamed Mr. Trump for every COVID death.   And now, when asked about Mr. Biden's responsibility in the deaths of these American servicemembers, you immediately deflect to Mr. Trumps COVID performance.

So there's a double standard? 

1 minute ago, toomuchbaloney said:

So there's a double standard? 

No, there's no double standard, at least in my view. 

And as you quoted me in the response I presume you're directing this to me, so please show me where I've absolved Mr. Trump of any responsibility. Or otherwise suggested that I held him to a different standard than I do Mr. Biden

3 minutes ago, chare said:

No, there's no double standard, at least in my view. 

And as you quoted me in the response I presume you're directing this to me, so please show me where I've absolved Mr. Trump of any responsibility. Or otherwise suggested that I held him to a different standard than I do Mr. Biden

I don't recall implying or saying that you absolved Trump of anything.  I'm wondering about the double standard that makes military deaths in the midst of a dangerous extraction of people and assets more concerning about presidential competence than hundreds of thousands of American civilian deaths after that president directly lied to and misled the American people about the threat.  It seems that there is a double standard for concern and what constitutes evidence of malfeasance or incompetence. 

11 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I don't recall implying or saying that you absolved Trump of anything. ...

Then please don't quote me and ask questions that aren't directed to me.

13 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

... I'm wondering about the double standard that makes military deaths in the midst of a dangerous extraction of people and assets more concerning about presidential competence than hundreds of thousands of American civilian deaths after that president directly lied to and misled the American people about the threat. ...

Then direct this to those that, in your opinion are displaying one.

Regarding the botched extraction.  I doubt, had he done implemented it during his administration, the Mr. Trump would have had any better success.

21 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

... It seems that there is a double standard for concern and what constitutes evidence of malfeasance or incompetence. 

I agree.  And, in my opinion, there are many on both sides of the aisle, to include some on this site, that are guilty of this.

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As the Taliban swept across Afghanistan, the Afghan army crumbled and capitulated. The Afghan army has been facing criticism for failing to fight back, but an Afghan commander says his troops were abandoned and "betrayed" by politics.

"American troops cannot and should not be fighting in a war and dying in a war that Afghan forces are not willing to fight for themselves," President Joe Biden said August 16, the day after the Taliban reached Kabul.

Gen. Sami Sadat, a three-star Afghan general who led the 215 Maiwand Corps, said that while it is true the Afghan forces lost their will to fight, there was more to it than that, offering another perspective on the army's defeat.

"We were betrayed by politics and presidents," the general wrote in a New York Times op-ED on Wednesday, saying Afghan forces had fought bravely over the past two decades of war, in which more than 60,000 Afghan security force personnel died.

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Afghan general says army was 'betrayed' by politics and blames Trump, Biden, and Afghan leaders for losing the war to the Taliban