President Biden thread

2 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Supposing the unit is a dumpster fire, the incoming shift should be competent enough to not throw gasoline on it.

Aw...in your opinion it was gasoline...and that is echoed by the previous shift of incompetents.  That reveals the nature and value of those "gasoline" opinions...those same opinions really favored the work of the incompetent staff who left without giving report after killing a bunch of the patients with lies and inaction. 

46 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Who doesn't accept any responsibility? 

What's most telling is that Trump supporters don't seem to want to give Trump and his team any credit for their efforts in Afghanistan after they negotiated the US withdrawals with the Taliban.  Shouldn't we talk about how well situated the state department was to evacuate Americans and endangered Afghanis after Pompeo made that arrangement? Shouldn't we examine how many of those special VISAs were processed and how that system was strengthened and improved to accommodate the flood of applications that were expected during 2020? Shouldn't we talk about the reassurances that the Trump DoD gave us last year?

Oh...and the reality reflected that the previous shift didn't stick around and give report. There was no shift report and none of the cleaning or stocking was done by the outgoing staff while the patient was found lying in feces and vomit.  Now that's all your responsibility but you didn't make the mess.  You'll just keep doing your job and finding all of the things that the last crew ignored, screwed up or intentionally broke while the patient's and family yell at you.

That's a great analogy.  You just don't realize how poorly your analogy reflects upon Trump I guess. . 

If Trump had all the procedures in place and visas ready, why didn't he evacuate at that time?

6 minutes ago, subee said:

If Trump had all the procedures in place and visas ready, why didn't he evacuate at that time?

They shut down that visa approval process and made it difficult to restart the processes.  Trump removed resources and personnel. 

4 minutes ago, Beerman said:

By all means, show me some links to stories of or opinion pieces from people who think he's doing a good job with Afghanistan.  Or the border.

My suspicion is that the best you'll do is what's happening here.   Blame Trump.

Oh...I'm supposed to defend Biden and list his perceived successes like a Trumper does for Trump? No thanks. That's cult-like behavior.  Instead, I'll just reference the fact that Trump is the one who screwed up the processes for withdrawal of Americans and allies. It's so unlikely that any of your preferred media discusses those facts so consider it a favor to you that I try to inform you. 

Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden all wanted to get out. The how falls on one person.

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

By all means, show me some links to stories of or opinion pieces from people who think he's doing a good job with Afghanistan.  Or the border.

My suspicion is that the best you'll do is what's happening here.   Blame Trump.

Well, in all fairness there have been a few die hard Biden followers that have actually had the nerve to publicly say that the Aftganistan fiasco has been handled well. But of course anyone with half a brain can see that not only is this situation a complete train wreck it is an actual existential crisis for Americans, allies, and Afghans in Aftganistan and for all of us here in the US and else where world wide. Our allies no longer trust us and for good reason, unfortunately! Our President and his admin continue to lie and project weakness.

But yes, I guess some will just continue blaming Trump even though he had zero knowledge or say so in Biden and his admin completing this mission. This is just a complete embarrassment for our Country because people will most definitely be put at risk and most likely will lose their lives when Biden could have prevented this but chose not to!! I just cannot even imagine what innocent people in Aftganistan are currently going through thanks to Biden/Harris admin. (And I would also add that many of the Afghans that will be left behind are women and girls that will be treated horrifically, where are all the me-too movement groups/people, all I hear is radio silence/crickets, disgusting).

And to add insult to injury Biden started his latest hot mess of a speech (last night) talking about how great their newest train wreck (massive spending bill) will be. So I guess they think spending trillions of dollars that will sack our kids and grandkids into debt forever is a great thing. Not only is this bill a complete disaster it most certainly was not the time or place. But I guess as long as Pelosi gets what she wants all is well. This country is in big trouble. 

3 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:

Well, in all fairness there have been a few die hard Biden followers that have actually had the nerve to publicly say that the Aftganistan fiasco has been handled well. But of course anyone with half a brain can see that not only is this situation a complete train wreck it is an actual existential crisis for Americans, allies, and Afghans in Aftganistan and for all of us here in the US and else where world wide. Our allies no longer trust us and for good reason, unfortunately! Our President and his admin continue to lie and project weakness.

But yes, I guess some will just continue blaming Trump even though he had zero knowledge or say so in Biden and his admin completing this mission. This is just a complete embarrassment for our Country because people will most definitely be put at risk and most likely will lose their lives when Biden could have prevented this but chose not to!! I just cannot even imagine what innocent people in Aftganistan are currently going through thanks to Biden/Harris admin. (And I would also add that many of the Afghans that will be left behind are women and girls that will be treated horrifically, where are all the me-too movement groups/people, all I hear is radio silence/crickets, disgusting).

And to add insult to injury Biden started his latest hot mess of a speech (last night) talking about how great their newest train wreck (massive spending bill) will be. So I guess they think spending trillions of dollars that will sack our kids and grandkids into debt forever is a great thing. Not only is this bill a complete disaster it most certainly was not the time or place. But I guess as long as Pelosi gets what she wants all is well. This country is in big trouble. 

Funny how no one complained about the trillion dollar tax cut or the trillions of dollars Trump's covid policy will cost.future generations.  My little area of the world is gearing up to welcome these refugees.   Stop spreading lies about if one isn't for Trump then you must be a Pelosi supporter.but I'm glad she's still hanging out to protect us from the radical Republicans Trumpers like Ran Paul who actually advocated in public to leave the translators behind.  

6 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

They shut down that visa approval process and made it difficult to restart the processes.  Trump removed resources and personnel. 

It was rhetorical and for Beerman:)

1 minute ago, subee said:

It was rhetorical and for Beerman:)

Yeah. I'm providing him with information that he'll never get in his media preferences.