Pet Peeve Friday

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Let's vent a bit. I'm having trouble readjusting to reality after a wonderful Spring Break and am finding my patience wearing down a little quicker than the school year.

I'll start:

Cell phone voice mail that's either not set up or is full. I don't get people that do this... How are you not accessible when you're away from your kids in case of emergency? :facepalm:

I wore a slip. No one seems to know what they are anymore.

Hahahaha!! I remember having this conversation with my mom about 15 or so years ago...

*(mom trying on a new white linen skirt that she just bought on clearance)*

Mom: How do you like my new skirt?

Me: Nice! But I can see your undies. You'll need to get a thong.

Mom: I do NOT need a THONG. I need a SLIP

Me: Hahahahaha. Ok. Get a slip then.

Hahahaha!! I remember having this conversation with my mom about 15 or so years ago...

*(mom trying on a new white linen skirt that she just bought on clearance)*

Mom: How do you like my new skirt?

Me: Nice! But I can see your undies. You'll need to get a thong.

Mom: I do NOT need a THONG. I need a SLIP

Me: Hahahahaha. Ok. Get a slip then.

A thong?? :nono:

If you can see through the skirt, a thong won't help cover anything up. It just hides out in your butt cheeks. ;) You can still see your skin of your butt cheeks, thighs, etc.

I still have slips. Sometimes I wear them . . . when I wear a dress. Which is very, very rare.

Specializes in Pediatrics, school nursing.

I don't think I will ever get access to Immtrac2. After initially sending my username and org code to the wrong email address, I have yet to receive my password. Plus, the org code still shows me as being at my old school. I called them on Monday about it, and the recording said to email them, due to high call volumes. I'm still waiting on a response to that. I'm just hoping it's all straightened out before I go back to work in August, and desperately need to verify vaccines!

Specializes in School Nurse.
I don't think I will ever get access to Immtrac2. After initially sending my username and org code to the wrong email address, I have yet to receive my password. Plus, the org code still shows me as being at my old school. I called them on Monday about it, and the recording said to email them, due to high call volumes. I'm still waiting on a response to that. I'm just hoping it's all straightened out before I go back to work in August, and desperately need to verify vaccines!

I will never understand why they took a perfectly working system and ruined it. The new system is so user unfriendly!

I don't think I will ever get access to Immtrac2. After initially sending my username and org code to the wrong email address, I have yet to receive my password. Plus, the org code still shows me as being at my old school. I called them on Monday about it, and the recording said to email them, due to high call volumes. I'm still waiting on a response to that. I'm just hoping it's all straightened out before I go back to work in August, and desperately need to verify vaccines!

My org code says it is invalid. It is the one they sent me. Sigh. I emailed a few days ago. Hoping for access before the new school year as well.

Specializes in IMC, school nursing.
Dress codes...aaargh!

You are telling her that boys are more entitled to an education than she is.

Totally agree with all you said, save this last line. Please acknowledge that educational models used by the majority of school systems benefits female temperament, to the tune of 70/30 enrollment split at most universities. The vast number of ADHD prescriptions are given to feminize these boys so they can fit into that model. The main reason I am at this school, they cater to activity and stimulation, things boys need to succeed. Sorry, but you touched on the one thing that the NEA has used to destroy this country's future and is a huge pet peeve of mine.

Specializes in kids.
We don't have cleavage issues. We have a required polo that doesn't unbutton far enough to allow cleavage so that's not an issue.

Skorts being too short is our issue. The uniform policy for both boys and girls is that the skort or shorts length cannot be more than 3" above the knee. I see boys breaking this policy everyday but are they sent to me or the front office? Nope. But girls are sent to me every.single.day without fail. Double standard.

As a sexual assault survivor myself, I refuse to let my daughter be told that SHE is at fault if she is ever assaulted or raped. It's not an okay message to send girls. Short skirts don't cause rape. Rapists cause rape. I'm sick of girls getting the message that THEY are at fault for the disgusting thoughts in mens' heads.

I'm so sorry that you were a vicitm of that. Horrible on every level.

I don't think that asking them to cover their cleavage or not wear micromini, thong showing clothing is so that that we can prevent sexual assault. I think NO ONE needs to expose that much of themselves. You cannot in the business world, the hospital, our office, wear cleavage, micro minis etc. It is just not appropriate. At the beach, home, mall etc sure , whatever you want. But I feel there is a time and place for everything and neither school or work is the time or place.

My opinion.

I'm not changing and don't expect to change anyone else. We all look at life through our own lens.

Specializes in School Nurse.

How to get on ImmTrac 2:

Cry, scream, plead, walk away.

I emailed days ago and at this point they still have not responded - they must be super busy since their site is such an obvious FAIL.

Specializes in School Nursing, Hospice,Med-Surg.

I don't think I'm getting my point across appropriately.

I am in a private Christian (Baptist) school where a uniform is required. There are no micro-minis, thongs or cleavage issues. Our girls are wearing very modest khaki skorts and polos that, if left completely unbuttoned, might reveal an inch of skin between the clavicles.

My issue is that middle school girls are lined up and a teacher brings a tape measure and measures the distance between the top of her knee and the bottom of her skirt. If that distance is greater than 3" she is given a "uniform violation" and sent to me for a skort of "decent length." This is all while the boys are in class learning. This is absolute ridiculousness to me. This is an act of shaming as my daughter has described in her own words. She hates it.

In a faculty meeting just a few weeks ago, our (thankfully interim) principal stated that females are responsible with our dress for ensuring that males do not have impure thoughts and deeds. I had to pick my jaw up off the floor and considered withdrawing my daughter at that very moment if not for the hope that the principal would be gone soon and a MUCH better one would replace her. My daughter only has one more year left and I'd hate to pull her in her last year of middle school.

I grew up in public school but I also grew up in the South and was in the local Baptist church everytime the doors were open. I was raised with this idea that women were to keep their mouths shut and smiling while men were to be in control. You were to always show respect at all times to those in authority. When my family physician sexually assaulted me as a teenager I had NO idea what to do. So I did nothing except assume it was somehow my fault. I kept it a secret for 25 years. And when I finally told my family LAST YEAR, they still victim blamed me. My husband and my parents still found a way to turn it around and tell me how I did it all wrong. My parents still see this doctor as their primary physician and my dad told me he forgave me for sharing my story.:banghead:

So, perhaps you understand where I'm coming from now? I absolutely preach modesty with my daughter and do the same with my girls at school. That's one of the reasons I've had her in a Christian school since Kindergarten. But I also believe in equality. No, I do not want to see girls in hot pants, micro-minis and thongs. I believe we should respects ourselves and each other. But respecting each other means treating one another equally and not placing our males on a pedestal as right-wing Conservatives have a tendency to do.

Mr Nurse, I agree completely that the classroom model is set up in regards to a female temperament. Boys do not have the attention span to sit still and pay attention and we are medicating to force them to do so. My SIL homeschools her 7th grade son for this very reason and I commend her for that. I kinda hate "straight-jacketing" my spirited boys with Ritalin and Adderall so they conform to an expected role in the classroom. But I don't think this has anything to do with dress code. A girl's skort length doesn't cause a boy to rape her later in life. And if girls are lined up and tape measured, so should the boys be.

Specializes in kids.
I don't think I'm getting my point across appropriately.

In a faculty meeting just a few weeks ago, our (thankfully interim) principal stated that females are responsible with our dress for ensuring that males do not have impure thoughts and deeds. I had to pick my jaw up off the floor and considered withdrawing my daughter at that very moment if not for the hope that the principal would be gone soon and a MUCH better one would replace her. My daughter only has one more year left and I'd hate to pull her in her last year of middle school.

Unbeliveable!!

And when I finally told my family LAST YEAR, they still victim blamed me.

Im so sorry

My husband and my parents still found a way to turn it around and tell me how I did it all wrong. My parents still see this doctor as their primary physician and my dad told me he forgave me for sharing my story.:banghead:

What a jerk (the doc, I'll not trash your family)

Much clearer for sure. I am in a public high school with a "dress code" that some teachers don't follow.

Specializes in IMC, school nursing.

I agree that the dress codes are intentionally written to "catch" girls more than boys. I also agree that enforcement should be across the board. I grew up in the 80's and wore a designer shirt with a V to my diaphragm with my hairy chest on display. Not one word. Looking back, oh my, I would not let my sons wear something like that. Believe there is a huge bias, but here, cargo and Under Armour shorts are knee length and the gangsta look is laughed at, so not an issue. Given the worldview you have and the filter you use, totally understand. I agree in theory that a woman should be able to walk down the road naked and be left alone, unfortunately, men are pigs and lack self control, like that horrible doctor. Sorry that the response to your brave accusation was met with stereotypical chauvinist replies.

I agree in theory that a woman should be able to walk down the road naked and be left alone, unfortunately, men are pigs and lack self control.

I disagree. Very, very strongly. It's insulting to men to say they cannot control themselves. There are cultures/tribes where men and women alike walk around barely covered and it is in no way sexual.

To say that a man cannot control his sexual urges likens him to be no better more in control of himself than a dog near a female in heat. A mature man can see a woman that he is attracted to (covered or not) and gawk or grab. The same disgusting stereotype is all over movies and sitcoms that portray an inept man/father who's parenting screw ups are met with an eye roll and a quick fix by a disproportionately attractive and unnervingly forgiving spouse.

At what point do we draw the line? We cannot tell our girls to cover, cover, cover and then say "Well, what was she wearing?" when a woman is raped.

Society reeks of "boys will be boys" mentality when we give a rapist 3 months in jail and elect a man as president who boasts about sexually assaulting women (and laughed off accusations of raping his wife because "you can't rape your wife")

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