Passing cut offs

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Obviously, other nursing students are aware of passing cut offs in nursing school (ex 75% or higher). But I feel like I haven't seen any other nursing programs like mine: for our BSN program, the cut off for passing is 70% and above, however, in some of the classes (not sure why it's only some of them, doesn't seem fair) that's not all. In addition to the 70% cut off in the class we also have to have an average of 70% or higher in the exam section of the class or we don't pass either. If you get a D or F as an average in the exam section, then that is your grade for the course and you don't pass. It seems really dumb to me because I've known many students in our program that have gotten screwed out of this where everything in the class came out to be an A or B yet they were a couple point's shy of that 70% average in the exam section and they don't pass, students who would all make great nurses. Does anyone else have this at their school? I just think it's really stupid. I know 70% is fairly low for nursing programs and seems easy to get for the class overall and exam section. But when it's set up like this, especially when the class had only three exams, it basically says that even if we have one test that we do more poorly on, and everyone has those tests, then we're screwed. Anyone else have this at their school too?

Specializes in LTC, Med-surg.

I can't believe there are people who are correlating test questions to actual knowledge of the material!

Just because someone gets 7 out of 10 questions right doesn't mean they don't know 30% of the material.

How can 3 test questions account for a part of ALL the material studied in one's brain? I don't get it. How does that even make sense?

Getting a passing grade on an exam doesn't mean anything about the nursing student except he or she is a good testtaker. Remember,

these exams are written by the faculty at your school, they don't MEASURE your ability to think like a nurse in general, they just try to

assess your critical thinking to a clinical scenario. They don't even write for the actual board exam so how can we say these nursing students are not cut out to be a nurse or can't pass NCLEX? Does the faculty at that school write for the NCLEX?

Specializes in hospice.
I can't believe there are people who are correlating test questions to actual knowledge of the material!

Well, I guess we should just dispense with the NCLEX then. I mean, it's ONLY a test and doesn't tell you anything about what someone actually knows! :rolleyes:

Specializes in Assistant Professor, Nephrology, Internal Medicine.

Wow, 70%? That is scary low. Mine was an 85% with no rounding accepted. Do you guys use ATI or HESI?

Specializes in Registered Nurse.

Maybe it's because I'm an old bat, but I think the pass cut off should be higher instead of lower. Although book learning isn't everything, when I am a patient, I want a nurse who understands the human body and what might be happening with it....again, not all learned in school....but it's a good base, if you pay attention!

Specializes in Geriatrics, Hospice.

Well, when I was in nursing school, we actually DID have an instructor who wrote questions for NCLEX (shrugs).

Specializes in Tele, Interventional Pain Management, OR.

78% is passing in my program. Not sure if there's rounding (with one semester to go, I haven't scored low enough to worry about that specific question).

We also haven't lost too many students due to this standard, I don't think. To me, 78% is not that high. Our presentations/homework do not factor in; it's strictly unit exams and the comprehensive final.

And.. it's either/or as far as passing theory and clinical--you can't pass one (and progress in the nursing program) without passing the other. This is probably standard in nursing school, though.

Overall advice for nursing school success: Don't worry too much about other students/programs. Do your best and the rest will follow.

Specializes in Critical care.

Yep, my school is 75% exam average before any other material (ie, clinical journals, other assignment, etc) is factored in. If you don't meet the 75% average you fail. We have several people on the line because of that, unfortunately, and some of them are my good friends who are bad test takers. But, it is what it is. All they can do is study like there's no tomorrow.

I think my school was 70 for BSN and 80 for MSN. Think of it this way. When you are applying to some jobs, many teaching/prestigious hospitals will not even let you apply without a 3.0 GPA, average applicants accepted are 3.5+ GPA. They require that you submit your transcripts with your new grad application. Don't even aim at 70 if you want to be at a hospital where you will get the best resources to learn. You should be trying to get at As and Bs. Trying hard now will make things a lot easier in the future. And the job market for new grads are not good, many of my friends applied to 50-100+ applications before landing a hospital job.

I'm going to Nightingale College in Utah, our passing grade is 77.7% We usually have 3-5 main tests that basically determine our grade. There is homework and discussions but those are like bonus points. It is setup this way SO YOU LEARN. If you don't take the time to study and pass mediocre tests in class you wont pass the NCLEX. I had a class this semester and one test was 15% of my grade... did I study? You bet your butt I did.

Specializes in ICU.

My school is a 78% to pass and you have to have a 78% exam average to pass the class as well. I think it's pretty common practice.

My program requires a 78% exam average in order for any other course work to factor in. They are also kind enough to round up if you're on the cusp. (77.5% is truly the magic number) But I have no interest in spending my time in school just barely making it. I strive for at least B's in all of my classes but even then, I'm slightly disappointed in myself. I want to get into graduate school and further my education. C's and just barely getting by are not going to cut it.

I think your school is extremely "nice" in having such a low threshold. I use the word nice loosely because it actually may be hurting you in the end. Just find out which study habits work well for YOU and make it happen. It's completely possible to get all A's in nursing school. You just have to make it happen.

Best of luck to you.

Specializes in public health, women's health, reproductive health.

When I was in school, grades were based on exams ONLY and the "cut off" was 75%. That seemed low to me, so 70% surprises me.

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