Paging Doctor Nurse

sauce · Nov 3, 2015

The only doctorate ill ever get is one in trollatology. Doesn't offer much pay increase but its probably one of the most fun degrees. I didn't get the fraud liability certificate though so somebody stole my bridge a while back.

By the way, what type of program did the troll use to go from an ASN to an FNP. He used a bridge program..... Don't worry people, ill be here all day.

Trauma Columnist · Nov 3, 2015

I personally don't want anything "terminal."

@sauce - I want your job!

AndersRN · Nov 6, 2015

As long as that scrub tech and telephone operator spent 8 years/over $100,000 in total expense for their Doctorate in scrub tech and telephone operator degrees, I'll be elated to call them Dr. Scrub and Dr. Telephone!
With all that hard work and money they deserve to use the title that they actually literally earned, their doctorate. What dedication to telephone operating, Kudo's! :)

You will be a Doctor Nurse... Not real one!

Nurse_Lightning · Nov 6, 2015

You will be a Doctor Nurse... Not real one!

No, actually, he WILL be a real 'Doctor'. A Doctor of Nursing Practice. There are many types of 'Doctors'. Osteopathic Doctor, PhD Doctor, Naturopathic Doctor, etc. None of these are "PHYSICIANS", but they're ALL Doctors, even though they may not all use "a doctor's stethoscope."

AndersRN · Nov 8, 2015

No, actually, he WILL be a real 'Doctor'. A Doctor of Nursing Practice. There are many types of 'Doctors'. Osteopathic Doctor, PhD Doctor, Naturopathic Doctor, etc. None of these are "PHYSICIANS", but they're ALL Doctors, even though they may not all use "a doctor's stethoscope."
He won't be a doctor in healthcare settings! The PharmD and the DPT do not go around the hospital intruding themselves as: 'I am Dr. [insert]... It's just some DNP who have that folly.

cubrnjvm, MSN, RN · Nov 8, 2015

With all my respect and clarifying that it is my intention to only offer my very personal opinion.

Everyday I ask myself, who will be taking care of me when I get older?

A nurse or a "masterized" doctor of nursing specialized in geriatric care? Lately, everyone wants to attain a higher degree ( I should notice, I'm working towards my master) that is amazing and admirable, however don't get discouraged if when the time comes you find Master and Doctor prepared nurses providing bedside care. This is not unfortunate but it is what the majority is trying to avoid when enrolling to obtain a higher degree. I'm trying to get my master for exclusive personal reasons, it will not give me more money, I'm not looking for new employment opportunities since I'm happy where I am, however, I don't have plans to pursue a higher degree than that. Why? because, unless your employment requires it, it is not worth the money, the time and what will I really learn from it? How to perfect my research papers and improve writing skills, otherwise I should be learning how to perfect my caring behavior towards patients and others, my clinical skills to assess my patients and decrease the outstanding high level of medication errors ( as many regularly post in this forum), improve my medical knowledge and communication skills to avoid 80% of the medical errors happening when no providing correct information when handing off our patients. Lastly, learning to be an amazing nurse, providing a double amazing care to my patients.

sorry if any typos, this is from a mobile application.

oldandintheway · Nov 8, 2015

Actually most MDs have not received the training or research to be awarded the title Doctor in the original usage. An argument can be made that they usurped an academic honor. Doctor comes from the Latin for teacher.

PG2018 · Nov 8, 2015

I've decided that anyone administering treatment can be called "doctor.". Plenty of foreign medical grads add Dr. to their name despite holding only a masters or BMMS. I'm aware of a school psychologist with an EdS who is called doctor by his employing district. Physicians were called doctor when they were uneducated apprentices turned master.

Add in anyone with an earned doctorate such as dentists, optometrists, pharmacists, physical therapists, clinical psychologists, some counselors, some social workers, veterinarians, chiropractors, museum curators, pastors, school superintendents, college professors, Sheldon Cooper, Leonard Hofstadter, and Raj Koothrappali.

Doctorate or not if you want to call yourself doctor and provide treatment then go ahead because confused or not nobody flips the heck out when any of the above have the old Dr. attached to their little names.

elkpark · Nov 8, 2015

He won't be a doctor in healthcare settings! The PharmD and the DPT do not go around the hospital intruding themselves as: 'I am Dr. [insert]... It's just some DNP who have that folly.

I've worked in psych, inpatient and outpatient, for >30 yrs, and every (doctorally-prepared) psychologist I've worked with has always been "Dr. XYZ" in the workplace. No one has ever questioned that, and no clients have had any difficulty understanding who was who and the difference between the psychiatrist and the psychologist.

sauce · Nov 8, 2015

We are already seeing degree inflation. I know plenty of people with a masters in something that work minimum wage jobs. with a lot of student debt. The easier it is to obtain a degree= more people will do it= it is worth less. The majority of people will never be well off. That is the law of history, there will probably NEVER be a time when a majority of people are making a great income. Income disparity will always exist and is currently worsening. So yes, there will be masters and doctors of nursing that provide bedside care, with no pay increase, since the degree they obtained adds NO ADDITIONAL MARKETABLE VALUE to the services they provide. It may add VALUE, but value does not equal marketable value. Do not think the puppet masters at the top will pay you more since you have an advanced degree. They would hire people with a GED to work as bedside nurses if the law allowed them to so they could pay them pocket change.

We are humans, we are greedy little buggers and unless you can OFFER A SERVICE THAT OTHERS CANNOT, you will not become rich in this life. If you actually take a look around most things offered do not provide any benefit. But hell if you are willing to throw your money at it, they will offer it.

So if anybody wants to enroll in my living room advanced practice certificate program that I run out of my living room, with only 4 weeks of intense forum posting, I will grant you the degree of BMTFNP-BC-MSN. Bad mother trucker FNP-bc-msn. You must already have a fnp-MSN to enroll though and tuition is 9000 dollars per credit hour. Total of 6 credit hours.

Don't think for one second I wouldn't offer this, even though its not worth anything, if people were willing to throw money at me for the program. I would actually probably build a giant 9 story solid marble building with nice new office desks, tables, lounge chairs, etc i my backyard and reap the reward of your idiocracy for paying me stupid amounts of money for a piece of paper worth less than a used roll of toilet paper.

This is the way universities think also, so get your head out of the sand and use logic and stop getting stupid degrees.

PG2018 · Nov 8, 2015

No, actually, he WILL be a real 'Doctor'. A Doctor of Nursing Practice. There are many types of 'Doctors'. Osteopathic Doctor, PhD Doctor, Naturopathic Doctor, etc. None of these are "PHYSICIANS", but they're ALL Doctors, even though they may not all use "a doctor's stethoscope."
Osteopaths are actuly physicians. Their education covers the same as a MD plus OMT. They can take either the COMLEX or USMLE, and they can enter ACGME residencies and fellowships. There has been viable discussion of merging allo and osteo licensure, residencies and board certification.

PG2018 · Nov 8, 2015

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