I, myself have no intent on ever getting a DNP. All personal reasons aside, the rational behind my decision is due to the lack of benefit of spending a large sum of money on this degree. This does not include the large amount of time invested and other opportunity cost involved.
I am asking people who do think this degree is worth it to explain the rational for pursuing this degree, with explanation to why they want to acquire it, if it will be monetarily worth it for them, etc.
There have been many topics on this in the past, but it seems to not clearly depict the rational of going for a doctoral degree in an objective manner.
my guess of possible reasons would be one of the following
Teaching
So they can have a terminal degree
Leadership at a large hospital
Further one's education
Research (even though PhD is more research-y.
Maybe this will give people a second light before they decide to throw an extra 20-100k at a questionable (in my opinion) degree, and possibly save some people some financial troubles in the future.
Have fun folks and lets discuss this like a horse thats been ran over 15 times and homogenized so thoroughly you could separate the oxygenated RBC from the deoxygenated RBC in a centrifuge going at 1000rpm.
But does one need a doctorate degree to conduct/ participate in research studies? Please educate me.
You may not necessarily need a doctorate to conduct research. However, you really don't learn these skills in most graduate programs at the master's level. You also should be considering a PhD program if your intent is to learn and conduct research. The DNP has some courses on outcomes research and program development but research is not the true focus of the degree.
I had 3 reasons for choosing the BSN to DNP program. First, I wanted a terminal degree in nursing. Second, I only wanted to go through graduate school once. At any point if the DNP becomes a requirement then I will have that complete. Third, I live in a saturated market and if the DNP can set me apart while job hunting then even better.
And the Dr. of surgical technology will hand the tools out, the Doctor of scrubology will help with cleaning the patient and the surrounding areas, the Dr. of RFNAology will help suture superficial entry points, the Dr. circulatology will keep on eye on everything in the room and record information.
And they will all get paid the same as the regular RNs and crnas who didn't spend the extra time in school. and they will still be nurses.
"excuse me operator, I am a doctor now, when you page me overhead make sure to call me doctor"
"but this says your a nurse"
"yeah... I have a doctor of nursing"
"lol ok"
"yeah i am a nurse who wrote more papers than the other nurses and got crowned a doctor"
"oh okay"
2 days later...
"paging doctor nurse such and such to OR paging doctor nurse such and such to OR"
Surgeon, "hey nurse he needs a little bit more propofol, he flinched when my assistant poked his belly button"
And the Dr. of surgical technology will hand the tools out, the Doctor of scrubology will help with cleaning the patient and the surrounding areas, the Dr. of RFNAology will help suture superficial entry points, the Dr. circulatology will keep on eye on everything in the room and record information.
And they will all get paid the same as the regular RNs and crnas who didn't spend the extra time in school. and they will still be nurses.
"excuse me operator, I am a doctor now, when you page me overhead make sure to call me doctor"
"but this says your a nurse"
"yeah... I have a doctor of nursing"
"lol ok"
"yeah i am a nurse who wrote more papers than the other nurses and got crowned a doctor"
"oh okay"
2 days later...
"paging doctor nurse such and such to OR paging doctor nurse such and such to OR"
Surgeon, "hey nurse he needs a little bit more propofol, he flinched when my assistant poked his belly button"
lolerskates.
As long as that scrub tech and telephone operator spent 8 years/over $100,000 in total expense for their Doctorate in scrub tech and telephone operator degrees, I'll be elated to call them Dr. Scrub and Dr. Telephone!
With all that hard work and money they deserve to use the title that they actually literally earned, their doctorate. What dedication to telephone operating, Kudo's! :)
You can get your PhD like Natural Nancy for $4490 and a 3000-word essay. For a few bucks more you can be a "board certified holistic nutrition practitioner". Nutrition practitioner, nurse practitioner, fraud protection, frog protection, we are saying the same thing.
The only doctorate ill ever get is one in trollatology. Doesn't offer much pay increase but its probably one of the most fun degrees. I didn't get the fraud liability certificate though so somebody stole my bridge a while back.
By the way, what type of program did the troll use to go from an ASN to an FNP. He used a bridge program..... Don't worry people, ill be here all day.
As long as that scrub tech and telephone operator spent 8 years/over $100,000 in total expense for their Doctorate in scrub tech and telephone operator degrees, I'll be elated to call them Dr. Scrub and Dr. Telephone!
With all that hard work and money they deserve to use the title that they actually literally earned, their doctorate. What dedication to telephone operating, Kudo's! :)
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You may not necessarily need a doctorate to conduct research. However, you really don't learn these skills in most graduate programs at the master's level. You also should be considering a PhD program if your intent is to learn and conduct research. The DNP has some courses on outcomes research and program development but research is not the true focus of the degree.