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I, myself have no intent on ever getting a DNP. All personal reasons aside, the rational behind my decision is due to the lack of benefit of spending a large sum of money on this degree. This does not include the large amount of time invested and other opportunity cost involved.

I am asking people who do think this degree is worth it to explain the rational for pursuing this degree, with explanation to why they want to acquire it, if it will be monetarily worth it for them, etc.

There have been many topics on this in the past, but it seems to not clearly depict the rational of going for a doctoral degree in an objective manner.

my guess of possible reasons would be one of the following

Teaching

So they can have a terminal degree

Leadership at a large hospital

Further one's education

Research (even though PhD is more research-y.

Maybe this will give people a second light before they decide to throw an extra 20-100k at a questionable (in my opinion) degree, and possibly save some people some financial troubles in the future.

Have fun folks and lets discuss this like a horse thats been ran over 15 times and homogenized so thoroughly you could separate the oxygenated RBC from the deoxygenated RBC in a centrifuge going at 1000rpm.

Boom

idc if people call themselves doctor or not, usually the ones who insist on it are bigheaded enough though. People will do anything to make themselves feel better than others. Nursing isn't a complex enough field to require a doctorate though. Usually the fields that are not very complex attempt to derive their perceived complexity from providing complex theory based classes which benefit nobody. Nursing theory seems to attempt to be a sad mix between psychology and medicine. But hey if they want to be called doctor so be it. Id rather spend my time and money on other things like business. BC my business I own on the side probably makes more in one year than the difference in pay between an fnp and DNP makes in a lifetime, and my business doesn't make a ton. Lol.

People need to read the book worthless- its about the awfulness of most college degree programs.

I had to read a nursing theory book for my graduate school. It was pretty much a copy paste version of a general research book with the word nurse and Roy tossed into it at random intervals.

Like I said before, soon we will be seeing doctorates of janitorial science and clerkology.

It's clear from your previous posts that you want to be a physician impersonator without putting the work for it... I hope you don't live in one the states that ban DNP nurse practitioners from introducing themselves as doctors (i.e physicians) in healthcare settings... because you will put your license in jeopardy...

I am just tired of clarifying to patients that these people are not real doctors (i.e. physicians).

Then by your definition, those with PhDs shouldn't be called "Doctor" either. They're not "real" doctors, right?

Specializes in ED.

Actually physicians usurped the title from PhDs, and as I mentioned earlier most physicians I have known couldn't stand up to the academic rigor of doctoral programs. In some places surgeons are still referred to as Mister as an anachronism.

Actually physicians usurped the title from PhDs, and as I mentioned earlier most physicians I have known couldn't stand up to the academic rigor of doctoral programs. In some places surgeons are still referred to as Mister as an anachronism.

When I look up the word "doctor" in the Merriam Webster dictionary, a medical doctor is the second definition. The first definition is:

  • 1a : an eminent theologian declared a sound expounder of doctrine by the Roman Catholic Church —called also doctor of the churchb : a learned or authoritative teacherc : a person who has earned one of the highest academic degrees (as a PhD) conferred by a universityd : a person awarded an honorary doctorate (as an LLD or Litt D) by a college or university

The second definition is:

  • 2a : a person skilled or specializing in healing arts; especially : one (as a physician, dentist, or veterinarian) who holds an advanced degree and is licensed to practiceb : medicine man

Specializes in Outpatient Psychiatry.
Then by your definition, those with PhDs shouldn't be called "Doctor" either. They're not "real" doctors, right?

PhDs are the ORIGINAL and TRUE doctors.

Specializes in Outpatient Psychiatry.
Actually physicians usurped the title from PhDs, and as I mentioned earlier most physicians I have known couldn't stand up to the academic rigor of doctoral programs. In some places surgeons are still referred to as Mister as an anachronism.

In much of the world physicians and surgeons are still trained in bachelor programs. There's really nothing wrong with that either. I do find it ABSURD when a FMG comes to the U.S., passes a test, and is suddenly "doctor" when there was never an earned doctorate.

PhDs are the ORIGINAL and TRUE doctors.

Yes, I know. I was being sarcastic, which it seems wasn't shining through via the Internet :-)

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