Obamacare and hospitals

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Will non-profit or for profit hospitals stand to benefit more from Obamacare?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/25/us/health-act-cuts-spending-at-hospitals-report-finds.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0

It is clear that some politicians will put politics before the health of their constituents.

From the same article:

"Charles N. Kahn III, the president of the Federation of American Hospitals, which represents investor-owned companies, said, “The increased payments for previously uncompensated care are a plus for hospitals.” But he added: “You have to remember the context. We are living with heavy cuts in Medicare, which were put in place by the Affordable Care Act.”

Federal officials analyzed financial reports from hospital operators like HCA Holdings and Tenet Healthcare, as well as data collected from two dozen states by the Colorado Hospital Association. In states that expanded Medicaid, they said, hospitals reported increases in Medicaid admissions ranging from 17 percent to 32 percent, with no evidence of significant increases in other states."

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I got a plan thru the marketplace. $312 blue cross blue shield plan with $1500 deducatable. No vision or dental. In my state blue cross is the only company on the marketplace exchange. Obamacare has caused a monoplay. By allowing a small number of companies to participate in the exchange. Why did they chose blue cross? Its a fed funded. Fed run program and website. I never heard of any bidding reguarding these marketplace plans. Obamacare is not sustainable. It was designed to push us toward a single payer system. Administered by a private company. Like blue cross for example. Not cool.

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There are alot of misconceptions about obamacare. People claims that pre existing conditions are covered. Read the fine print. They can not deny coverage based on pre existing conditions. But they can still make you wait a time period before paying for pre existing conditions. They also claim that the insurance company cant jacked up your rate. Again that is misleading. They cant willy nilly jack up your rates. But the can increase your rate for justifiable reasons. If you have one bad yr and get sick alot. They can and will jack up your rate. It does require free preventative health care. Which is awesome. But they can still charge you a co pay for the office visit to get that free preventative care. Lol free really isnt free then. So basically we have a small number of insurance companies that now have a huge influx of customers. Alot of these new customers are young healthy adults. So they charge them an arm and leg knowing damn well the person is healthy and probably wont use hardly any of the insurance. So basically obamacare makes these insurance companies even richer. I mean yea they do have to provide free preventative health care. And provide min coverage. But the extra money coming in will be more than the money spent. Therefore lining the pockets of Blue Cross excs. As a democrat that campaigned for obama. I'm ******! He sold his soul and sold us up the river and never thought twice. Its just insane to me that our govnt requires us by law to buy insurance from a private third party company. What the hell kind of sense does that make? If its going to be mandatory then they need to offer it to everyone for free! I just went to the ACA website. It said individuals making less than $45000 a year MAY qualify for subsidies. I made $42000 last yr. I filled out all the questions on the website. It calculated the amt of subsidy I could receive. It said you qualify for $0 subsidy. I clicked ok. The next screen said that if I do not buy a plan I will have to pay a penalty fee. Seriously. This is a joke. No wonder why other countries laugh at us. We are pretty freaking stupid!

So who really stands to profit from this? Lol and dont even get me started on obama and his connections to Big Pharma!

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There are alot of misconceptions about obamacare.

The fact that you refer to the Affordable Care Act as "obamacare" is misconception enough.

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The fact that you refer to the Affordable Care Act as "obamacare" is misconception enough.

"Obamacare" is a pejorative term for the Affordable Care Act, IMO. I don't view it as an acceptable way to refer to the ACA.

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"Obamacare" is a pejorative term for the Affordable Care Act, IMO. I don't view it as an acceptable way to refer to the ACA.

You'll have to take it up with the President then:

"The Affordable Care Act -- also known as Obamacare," Obama said to applause from backers at the University of Denver.

"I actually like the name," he added. "Because I do care -- that's why we fought so hard to make it happen."

From http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/08/obama-embraces-the-term-obamacare/1#.VCj_AMrn8m8

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I personally don't care if Obama and others feel they've ameliorated the term or not - I dislike it.

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I personally don't care if Obama and others feel they've ameliorated the term or not - I dislike it.

Obama embraced it for political reasons.

The republican party determined to call the ACA by "Obamacare" in order to mislead folks about the plan and to capitalize on the basic dislike of the POTUS. They were so successful with their smear propoganda that many right wing conservatives didn't even know that the ACA was the same as Obamacare when they were asked.

Conservatives are proud of the propoganda.

Americans are generally embarassed by the adolescent approach.

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Hahaha ok grammar Police! I called it obamacare. Because thats what it is. Obama's half ass attempt at healthcare reform. Please note that no one attacked my actual arguement. Only attacked my use of the term obamacare. Seriously! I thought this was supposed to be an educated discussion. Sorry my bad. Grammar police! Smh! Lets focus on what matters!

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Everyone knows that the ACA is also known as obamacare. How many people have actually read the law? Yep thats what I thought. The term obamacare def started from GOP propaganda but its just common slang term now for the ACA. Dont get all bent out of shape over one word I said. Read everything I said. And discuss the content of my argument. I thought my fellow nurses could participate in a enlightened discussion about the implications of the ACA. Please forgive me. I will go back to debating it on Twitter. At least people on Twitter know the law. Smh!

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As a democrat that campaigned for obama. I'm ******! He sold his soul and sold us up the river and never thought twice.

Despite the pejorative label of "obamacare" tossed about by the Republicans in their continuous efforts to demonize the president, it wasn't Obama who "sold his soul and sold us up the river." The ACA was written and passed BY THE CONGRESS, the same as every other Federal law. All Obama did was urge them, in the first place, to undertake healthcare reform and then sign the bill they wrote, passed, and sent to him for signature. And the reason it's such an awful bill is because the Democrats in Congress wrote every Republican element into that they could, at the Republicans' insistence, to try to get some Republican votes for it (and, in the end, after insisting that there couldn't be any sort of public option, we must have a mandate, the system still has to be based on for-profit insurance companies, etc., etc., etc., not a single one of them voted for it).

If you don't like the bill, don't blame Obama for it.

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Everyone knows that the ACA is also known as obamacare. How many people have actually read the law? Yep thats what I thought. The term obamacare def started from GOP propaganda but its just common slang term now for the ACA. Dont get all bent out of shape over one word I said. Read everything I said. And discuss the content of my argument. I thought my fellow nurses could participate in a enlightened discussion about the implications of the ACA. Please forgive me. I will go back to debating it on Twitter. At least people on Twitter know the law. Smh!

I have read the entire law as a number of others on this forum have.

We are content to allow you to rant about your misconceptions of the ACA, that provides good insight into your critical thinking.

You are welcome to take baiting comments to a twit site.

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