Nursing students who do not understand what nursing is about

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Yesterday, in post conference a students asked me when are they going to learn "real" nursing. Each student had done med pass on one or two patients that day. When I asked the student what he meant he stated that nursing is not about vital signs and passing pills, hanging IV's, etc. He wanted to learn "real" nursing.

I explained to the group that the responsibilities of the nursing include medication administration, patient assessment and documentation. He then stated that those were jobs of the aide or the LPN and that he wanted to make decisions about the patient care.

The students in the class are second degree BSN candidates. The saddest part is that when we had our introduction on the first class it was apparent that most of then were "failures to launch" i.e. they never got started in their respective first career choice and where now in nursing because they perceive it as an area with opportunity. I do not understand how or why they have the perception that nursing is a leadership or decision making profession.

In previous classes, the majority of the 2nd degree BSN students had been in other fields and wanted to make a change to nursing. Most entered nursing because their first career did not pan out or they did not have what it takes to succeed in their first career choice. A few wanted to really be a nurse but passed it up the first time around they went to college.

My concern is that these students do not understand the healthcare system or the role of the nurse in the system. Many times I wish I had the courage to be blunt with then. I am honest with then and try to deflect them by telling them about NP training but I feel that our schools admission department should have screened out some of these students for their own sake.

Adding to the irony of the situation, a significant percentage of them have serious academic difficulties including poor writing skills (and these are all college graduates!).

Any advice or ideas on how to address the students on the issue of unrealistic expectations about bedside nursing practice.

I am tempted to defend myself as a second degree "failure to launch" student, but I will refrain.

OP, have you sat these students down and had a lecture on what a nurse does? You seem to expect them to automatically know these things. You're the teacher, they are the students. I think this is a classic teaching moment. Do some teaching.

Specializes in Med Surg, Nursing Education.

WOW!!! So the reason that I finished my RN at 40+, after 17 years as an LPN, is because I somehow failed in my "first career". Huh, I thought it was because I was busy raising 3 children with asperger's syndrome! Not everyone has had the opportunity and resources to go to college at 18, and life quickly catches up with you. I won't be so quick to judge you on your statement's, as I just don't have enough information. Just remember the same about those you teach. You just don't have enough information. They are there to learn from you, and some will take more of your time then others, with more creativity on your part. 8)

Specializes in cardiac, ICU, education.
It would have been interesting to know what the student who wanted to learn about "real" nursing actually meant. Might have started a great discussion on the realities of nursing, how to be agents of change, patient advocates, etc., etc.

I agree, or the snarky side of me says to have him write a paper about what real nursing is to him. Either he will learn a lot or weed himself out. BTW I am really just kidding. Maybe I am not quite jaded enough yet with education but I love having these types of students!

OP, if you are getting frustrated with these types of students, or students in general, maybe just a shift in nursing education would work well like NCLEX review classes or online BSN completion where you are dealing with students who are a bit farther along in their academic career.

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Stop taking the OP's comments personally!! They are her observations about THAT particular group of students. Show some "critical thinking" people and make some intelligent replies instead of being offended. Small minds show themselves fast to be offended.

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I am near 40 and the only one in my class over 29 yo and the only one without a previous degree. When asked how long the others worked in their previous careers, most say a couple of years to none! Failure to launch? I think so! Many are convinced that nursing is a quick route to instant money and career success. Does this apply to all? NO, but it does apply to many of the modern nursing students. We do clinicals in many settings with students from about five different universities and this is a common thread. She was making a point about them, not you.

Stop taking the OP's comments personally!! They are her observations about THAT particular group of students. Show some "critical thinking" people and make some intelligent replies instead of being offended. Small minds show themselves fast to be offended.

Yeah, I also got that she was talking about THESE PARTICULAR students and that previous classes came with a wealth of different experiences. I don't think its a lack of critical thinking, just really poor reading comprehension were seeing here. Skimming and missing important details. I hope these posters are reading test questions more closely.

you have to crawl before you walk folks!!

Specializes in Med surg, LTC, Administration.
Stop taking the OP's comments personally!! They are her observations about THAT particular group of students. Show some "critical thinking" people and make some intelligent replies instead of being offended. Small minds show themselves fast to be offended.

Thank you!!! Unfreakinbelievable!

Oh and I am stealing your last sentence for my sig line. Peace!

Specializes in ED, ICU, MS/MT, PCU, CM, House Sup, Frontline mgr.
stop taking the op's comments personally!! they are her observations about that particular group of students. show some "critical thinking" people and make some intelligent replies instead of being offended. small minds show themselves fast to be offended.

good point!!! also, insecure people tend to think that a negative comment about someone else or of another group includes them... these people usually think these negative things about themselves... assume others feel the same... and will become defensive when he/she reads or hears statements confirming his/her own negative beliefs.:twocents:

Specializes in Emergency.

Unfortunately some have to learn the hard way.

Yes, being direct may be helpful as some people (especially guys) don't perceive subtleness/gentleness.

But if they still want to be in their fantasy world and do not differentiate between nursing/PHP roles, they'll learn that the hard way.

Another idea is that you make the students write a paper/project on the differences and the role of a nurse. (and this will be reinforced in clinicals when they actually shadow and perform some of the nursing roles).

Specializes in ER, ICU, Education.
AOx1,

I LOVED reading your post. Very well written, concise and to the point. Thank you for sharing.

Thank you. It was kind of you to say so.

The first CNA that has been in practice a long time will eat him alive if he tries to "delegate" all his work, and he will not survive long.

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