Nursing occupation, politically ineffective due to inequalities of both gender?

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Hi all,

I would like some of your point on view on this statement.

What are your takes on nursing will always be a politically ineffective occupation because it is dominated by females and that more efforts should be made to recruit male nurses to remedy this (Draws on gender, power, professionalism).

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Specializes in Hospice.

What's your opinion?

Sounds like homework - is it?

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Nursing may be a politically ineffective occupation due to the drive of big business with a focus on customer service/satisfaction as opposed to and in spite of anything else.

Gender is a non-issue.

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Specializes in NICU, ICU, PICU, Academia.

Homework?

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Specializes in Home Health (PDN), Camp Nursing.

Firstly I hate that you didn't give any of your own input to this question. Your first post on a forum being a loaded question/homework assignment that's gonna cause all kinds of arguments that you most likely won't be here for Is, in my opinion the internet equivalent to farting in a crowded elevator as you get off on your floor.

But it worked.

I absolutely don't believe that all nursing needs is more member to fix all its issues. We need to get together on education levels, stop the ADN vs BSN vs LPN crap and work together. We need a political organization that actually advocates for on the line nurses, I still haven't seen a statement from the ANA about the Ebola preparedness. (Not saying it didn't happen, but it wasn't quick or loud enough for me to notice) all of these things can be accomplished with the present member to lady parts ratio. I encourage men to come into nursing, not because it needs them but because it is a good profession if it interests them. Just like I would encourage woman who are interested in medicine to become doctors.

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Specializes in HH, Peds, Rehab, Clinical.

Yep, screams homework assignment. Not quite as loudly as the multiple postings from the Winona State crowd though---that group took the cake!!

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Specializes in orthopedic/trauma, Informatics, diabetes.

Same ball park as education. Woman dominated field until you get higher up in the grade levels and administration.

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Specializes in nursing education.
the multiple postings from the Winona State crowd though---that group took the cake!!

Aw, I missed that. I need some drama! I'm female!

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Specializes in SICU, trauma, neuro.
Aw, I missed that. I need some drama! I'm female!

I think most of the posts are on the Nursing Issues on Pt Safety forum, most w/ the title "Outcomes Management." I was in a pretty good mood that first day and answered a couple of them even though it was clearly homework (although in their defense, they did say that their assignment was to ask on a nursing forum...tsk, tsk to that instructor)... then they kept coming. :facepalm:

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I am a male. Yes, I do believe nursing is an abused and underpaid profession. I think that females put up with a lot of **** they shouldn't. It seems that they deal with stress by tearing one another down because they don't know how to stand up to authority. This gossiping undermines trust and makes it harder for people to trust eachother and relationship build to make a better work enviornment etc. I have noticed many females are concerned with being the teacher's pet than standing up for what is right. They seem to be more likely to respect authority figures such as doctors, administrators, etc. than men are. I see cops in NJ making 90,000 a year or more and getting 85% of their base pay in retirement and their unions are active and vocal. outside of California, nursing unions are childs play. No one takes us seriously. Nurses are too busy complaining about problems and too tired to do anything about them. Nursing is perhaps the only field outside of the military where there are such clear lines of power and authority. If things are to change, the power structure needs to change. Nurses need to be empowered beyond this whole "Magnet" concept... Ultimately, it's a weird field.

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Specializes in LTC Rehab Med/Surg.

Continue. I posted something that wasn't quite relevant, and I don't want to derail.

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Hi all,

I would like some of your point on view on this statement.

What are your takes on nursing will always be a politically ineffective occupation because it is dominated by females and that more efforts should be made to recruit male nurses to remedy this (Draws on gender, power, professionalism).

My take is that this is a poorly worded, inflammatory question that implies women are naturally politically ineffective, powerless, and unprofessional, the condition is permanent, and women must be saved by men.

Nursing's problems extend far past man vs. woman. Most of us don't care whether your genitalia are inside or outside.

We care that hospital nursing has become hospitality nursing.

We care that patients' needs are being pushed aside for patient wants.

We care that nurses are being pushed to do more, with less, for far sicker people.

We care that management is in a pressure vise and when it blows, it blows downhill on the nurses.

We care that there is way too large of a government presence, causing more and more of our jobs to be taken up with meaningless benchmarks and irrelevant paperwork.

You should ask your instructor for a better, less 20th century question. Perhaps one that deals with today's issues, not issues from 30 years ago.

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