Nursing diagnosis "altered energy field"

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"Altered energy diagnosis"

Do you support this NANDA diagnosis? Or do you feel that this diagnosis threatens the legitamacy of our profession? Nanda still stands behind it. What are your thoughts?

paphgrl

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.

After moderator review, I'm re-opening this thread.:nurse:

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Specializes in Nursing assistant.

hooraY!!!!

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Specializes in Nursing assistant.

I was reading an article call the "Lost Beauty of Truth" by Ken Myers.

Heres a quote for your consideration:

(Myers had been speaking with colleaque about a lecture he had heard) :

"After rehearsing a number of this scholar's lucid arguments on various matters, my friend rather wearily conceded: "Look, I can't disagree with his arguments. I just don't like his conclusions, so I can't accept them." This person clearly lacked a "feeling for truth," the weight on one's conscience that one must adjust one's views and behavior if persuaded of new truths.

Such a loss could be described as a change in cultural sensibility. One cause of this change has been the rising dominance of image-based communication and the receding influence of print-based communication. In print, with words, one makes propositions. With propositions, one makes arguments and draws conclusions. These conclusions then become the starting propositions for further arguments. Thought, in a cultural atmosphere dominated by words, takes linear, logical forms, and naturally recognizes the difference between contradiction and noncontradiction.

One of television's effects is the subtle inculcation of the assumption that it's not very important to be able to work with words. Working with words requires working with logic. It requires habits of reason. It nurtures an appreciation for the profound and existentially compelling difference between truth and error. Thus, in a print-based culture, part of becoming educated is to develop a "feeling" for truth.

Image-based communication is not so much irrational as a-rational. It is more concerned with internal subjective resonance, "good vibes," than with seeking synchronization with some objective reality. Image-dominated forms of communication are nonlinear, nonpropositional, and hence inconclusive; they do not move from propositions to conclusion."

My question is: Does post modernism make it difficult for us to satisfactorily evaluate something like TT?

Please excuse my spelling!

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Thank you for re-opening the thread. Though we are a little off topic, I think it important that we explore the kinds of treatment theory that nursing should embrace. Should we be expected to accept any treatment modality? Should there be some minimum requirements? Should a treatment be required to surpass the placebo effect before we promote it? What is nursing based on if not scientific rigor?

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Thank you for re-opening the thread. Though we are a little off topic, I think it important that we explore the kinds of treatment theory that nursing should embrace. Should we be expected to accept any treatment modality? Should there be some minimum requirements? Should a treatment be required to surpass the placebo effect before we promote it? What is nursing based on if not scientific rigor?

I think you are really hitting the bullseye of this issue. Is nursing going to have a core of science? If not, what will determine the validity of a treatment modality?

Are our decisions imformed by fact, or our desires?

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Thank you for re-opening the thread. Though we are a little off topic, I think it important that we explore the kinds of treatment theory that nursing should embrace. Should we be expected to accept any treatment modality? Should there be some minimum requirements? Should a treatment be required to surpass the placebo effect before we promote it? What is nursing based on if not scientific rigor?

Old girl Florence was into holistic nursing, and if we consider that there are now 27-29 programs in Integrative Medicine in medical schools, perhaps we should jump on the bandwagon. From a business point of view, it's not very smart to keep stocking your store with one kind of goods when customers are buying other goods.

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Old girl Florence was into holistic nursing, and if we consider that there are now 27-29 programs in Integrative Medicine in medical schools, perhaps we should jump on the bandwagon. From a business point of view, it's not very smart to keep stocking your store with one kind of goods when customers are buying other goods.

Business by its nature tends towards pragmatism.

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There have been studies (including a well-publicized science fair project done by a teenager) that de-bunk the notion of therapeutic touch.

This is NOT to say that patients don't benefit from the physical, hands-on care of a nurse or other provider, such as bathing, back rubs, massage, etc. The research indicated that there was no measurable "energy field", and that TT practitioners could not, when blindfolded, distinguish patients suffering from illness or injury from healthy controls. Therefore, there is no scientific basis for this type of therapy or nursing diagnosis.

The reason TT has taken off in mainstream healthcare institutions is marketing, not science. Rather than employ adequate nurses to give patients "old fashioned" attention such as bathing assistance and backrubs, it is cheaper and more fashionable to offer "complimentary" upscale services such as TT.

It is a disgrace that NANDA is legitimizing this trend.

I totally agree. I would think patients benefit from being touched and stuff, but come on- "altered energy field?"

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There is a huge difference between holistic nursing and mystical nursing. I consider myself as a practitioner of science based holistic nursing. Touch and tone of voice are important. I include "treating" the family as well as the patient. My "healing hands" establish contact and trust, they sooth and show compassion, they perform tasks and allay fears. It is hogwash to say I'm repairing energy fields or aligning chakras/meridians.

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I think you are really hitting the bullseye of this issue. Is nursing going to have a core of science? If not, what will determine the validity of a treatment modality?

Are our decisions imformed by fact, or our desires?

And as I've stated before, our "medical science" was outdated 70 years ago. And by the way, even a double blind study is "non-valid."

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Business by its nature tends towards pragmatism.

What I'm trying to get across is that you better look at where the customers are shopping...and offer them what they are asking for...or you'll go hungry.

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There is a huge difference between holistic nursing and mystical nursing. I consider myself as a practitioner of science based holistic nursing. Touch and tone of voice are important. I include "treating" the family as well as the patient. My "healing hands" establish contact and trust, they sooth and show compassion, they perform tasks and allay fears. It is hogwash to say I'm repairing energy fields or aligning chakras/meridians.

Yes, you are doing all that...but you are also working on a deeper level. The only thing is is that you just don't have knowledge in that other area....and that's your choice. That smart fellow Einstein thought highly of the mystical!

Here's an interesting link on another thread. https://allnurses.com/forums/f24/healing-presence-141858.html

And I can still show you...in a few minutes...how to feel those energy fields.

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