Okay, so, I have studied vaccinations rather intensely and have chosen not to get vaccinated.
When I went to my nursing school they mad dogged me about having my vaccinations up to date.
I know I can file a personal beliefs affidavit when I apply, but I'm nervous about being black listed since the program I plan on attending chooses students by lottery and there would be no way to know if I was blacklisted.
I'm also worried about eventually getting a job....will I be passed over because I don't have my vaccinations?
I have decided to go ahead and get titers and vaccinations done...I'm not thrilled about it, but my desire to be a nurse greatly outweighs my desire to not be vaccinated.
I also do not want to be discriminated against based on beliefs, I want to help people and spread love threw nursing and I understand that will require many sacrifices...I guess its time to start making them.
No, my research did not involve Google, but many books, studies, and discussions with wise doctors who have written books and done studies on the subject.
Thank you everybody so much! Its such a blessing to learn from those who have already gone threw similar experiences.
Just sayin', it was an MD who was ultimately accused of fraud for starting the whole autism and MMR thing, which he completely fabricated. Trust the science, not the stakeholders.
I am glad you will soon be joining our ranks, Kendel.G. :)
OMG I am reviewing my vaccines to see what I can get because I am so afraid of pertussis. We are seeing a resurgence of pertussis even in vaccinated kids, also measles. Get your vaccines! Get whatever you can, if you don't you are crazy. Your brain is already developed, you are not going to become autistic. Come on. After a recent bout of shingles I now want vaccines. Too bad I was too young for the shingles vaccine. It was a real wakeup call. Terrible experience and 6 months later I am still not over it. You do not want these illnesses. Watch "the Sounds of Pertussis" video and run to your PCP for that booster. It is only about 80% effective but it is better than nothing. Tdap, MMR, Varicella, Zoster, Influenza, Meningitis, Polio, bring those vaccines! My arm is willing.
Before nursing I was a semester away from a BS in Biochemistry. It involved a lot of writing papers and reading scientific articles. I also had to take a research statistics class. It is easy for scientists to manipulate data to fit their belief system. This can go either way. However, I firmly believe if a person knowingly refuses vaccination, contracts a disease, and then passes it to someone who then dies, this is murder. I am glad you decided to go ahead with it. Your strong desire to be a nurse is a wonderful quality to start out with.
Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
OMG I am reviewing my vaccines to see what I can get because I am so afraid of pertussis. We are seeing a resurgence of pertussis even in vaccinated kids, also measles. Get your vaccines! Get whatever you can, if you don't you are crazy. Your brain is already developed, you are not going to become autistic. Come on. After a recent bout of shingles I now want vaccines. Too bad I was too young for the shingles vaccine. It was a real wakeup call. Terrible experience and 6 months later I am still not over it. You do not want these illnesses. Watch "the Sounds of Pertussis" video and run to your PCP for that booster. It is only about 80% effective but it is better than nothing. Tdap, MMR, Varicella, Zoster, Influenza, Meningitis, Polio, bring those vaccines! My arm is willing.
You should be afraid of pertussis. I had it as an adult. Wound up in the hospital. It was the worst, unrelenting coughing I have ever experienced. I was exhausted from coughing every fifteen seconds. And it wasn't just little coughs; it was racking coughs on top of coughs. I wound up with asthma as a consequence.
Before nursing I was a semester away from a BS in Biochemistry. It involved a lot of writing papers and reading scientific articles. I also had to take a research statistics class. It is easy for scientists to manipulate data to fit their belief system. This can go either way. However, I firmly believe if a person knowingly refuses vaccination, contracts a disease, and then passes it to someone who then dies, this is murder. I am glad you decided to go ahead with it. Your strong desire to be a nurse is a wonderful quality to start out with.
I am staunchly pro vaccines, but this is, IMO, rubbish. People have the right to make decisions about their own (and their childrens') health. We cannot, cannot force people to get vaccines that they do not want. I know others disagree with me. My daughter has a severe primary immune deficiency (ataxia telangiectasia). She gets IVIG every 4 weeks. I still don't think others should be forced, against their will, to get vaccines for the good of society. Instead, I think we should focus on education and making vaccines easily accessible. For the most part, I think our current way of dealing with vaccines works pretty great- opting out instead of opting in.
I had homebirths with both my kids. It was my educated decision, and I would do it again. Others would call that a stupid risk. I do not want my right to give birth at home taken away. (A simple example, but hopefully you get my point). I understand that the decision not to vax has societal consequences, but with our current opt-out system, we do a pretty great job of covering our bases. In addition, I fully support an employers' right to mandate vaccines in their employees.
when you choose not to immunize, your decision can have far flung consequences you might not have considered.
my husband is a college professor. he thought he had had rubella as a kid, but hadn't as it turned out. he caught it when
he took our amish cleaning person home. they don't believe in any immunizations whatsoever. he taught the next two days
and finally showed symptoms. problem was he had pregnant students and one was auditing the class and had not been vaccinated.
fortunately, she didn't contract it. but what if she had?
i had varicella when i was four. i had the vaccine along with the other vax i received. guess what? got 'em yet again during my peds rotation. a pedi neighbor says that's "most unlikely but certainly not impossible." i also had shingles when i was in my forties and it was
horrible! i had been told i was too young or the shingles vax. before i got them.
several amish babies and toddlers in this area have died from pertussis this last year. it's their culture's and their parents' religious right not to immunize. fine, but as long as they shop in nearby communities where parents feel they have the same right to refuse or delay,
I already have asthma and am having a bad time with it due to my workplace environment (poor air quality). That is why I am so afraid of it.
These illnesses are mostly preventable and I hate to see people brush them off. It is becoming a big problem with decreased herd immunity and overpopulation. I am very sympathetic to the fears of parents as my son had a bad reaction to a vaccine, but this resurgence of once rare illnesses is downright scary.
How long did your pertussis last? Did they diagnosis it right away? Were you treated with antibiotics quickly?
According to the CDC "In 2010, 27,550 cases of pertussis were reported". There is also an illness called parapertussis which is very serious and highly contagious for those who are unfamiliar- it does not last quite as long but involves the same horrible cough. There is no vaccine for it yet.
Specializes in Oncology; medical specialty website.
I am staunchly pro vaccines, but this is, IMO, rubbish. People have the right to make decisions about their own (and their childrens') health. We cannot, cannot force people to get vaccines that they do not want. I know others disagree with me. My daughter has a severe primary immune deficiency (ataxia telangiectasia). She gets IVIG every 4 weeks. I still don't think others should be forced, against their will, to get vaccines for the good of society. Instead, I think we should focus on education and making vaccines easily accessible. For the most part, I think our current way of dealing with vaccines works pretty great- opting out instead of opting in.
I had homebirths with both my kids. It was my educated decision, and I would do it again. Others would call that a stupid risk. I do not want my right to give birth at home taken away. (A simple example, but hopefully you get my point). I understand that the decision not to vax has societal consequences, but with our current opt-out system, we do a pretty great job of covering our bases. In addition, I fully support an employers' right to mandate vaccines in their employees.
People certainly have the right not to be vaccinated. Nursing programs and clinical sites also have the right to refuse to allow unvaccinated individuals from attending/performing clinical rotations. Going to nursing school is a privilege, not a right.
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Kendel.G
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Thank you all for such helpful advice!
I have decided to go ahead and get titers and vaccinations done...I'm not thrilled about it, but my desire to be a nurse greatly outweighs my desire to not be vaccinated.
I also do not want to be discriminated against based on beliefs, I want to help people and spread love threw nursing and I understand that will require many sacrifices...I guess its time to start making them.
No, my research did not involve Google, but many books, studies, and discussions with wise doctors who have written books and done studies on the subject.
Thank you everybody so much! Its such a blessing to learn from those who have already gone threw similar experiences.