We have had mandatory health care here in Massachusetts for about 3 years now. I find it interesting that this was never brought into any of the discussions , any where any news outlet, any debate ,anything. You are fined a penalty at tax time if you have not had insurance . I still do not know how I feel about this. I went from the micu to the ED about 2 years ago. I have to tell you the abuse of the health care system at the tax payers expense is discusting! They come into the ED for HCG testing, STDS, allergies, ear wax, constipation, splinters, rx for tylenol , refills, etc .I could go on with this ridiculous list. I always ask this question "did you call your pcp before coming to the ed?" 'NOPE " is always the answer. I have a 75 dollar co pay for the ED. Why dont they? They have fake nails, cell phones, Ed hardy sweatsuits, gucci bags, draped in gold and they cant pay a co pay? They cant get 3 dollar hcg test at CVS? Buy a bottle of generic tylenol? Get some colace? Call there doctor?
I emailed my senetor about this. I was so fed up with the abuse I see every day. It is a federal law "you come into the ed you get seen" period. That is fine . Fine come in for a splinter but pay at the door. geesh .it would be cheaper for us to hand out 10 dollar CVS cards at the triage desk!
So much is wrong with "health " (cough)care.This has been YEARS in the making ,this festering pool of disaster, waste, entitlement. It is not Obama's fault .it not even Bush's fault (that is hard for me to say) . Its not the dems or the gops fault. massachusetts mandatory health care bill came from a republican gov . It is Romneycare.I dont know whos fault it is . I really do not even care. I care about how are we going to fix this?
We as nurses are the biggest advocates for change. WE know where the waste is :Ceo pay, Top heavy management,health insurance co, goverment paperwork ,stupid ED visits, lack of preventive care, entitlements, Gov red tape, blah ,blah , blah. so what are we going to do about it?
If insurance companies spend 85% on medical care, they will be out of business in about 18 months. They will be unable to pay their bills and unable to meet claims. This is designed to kill them, and then we will all turn to the government for help. Although we dislike insurance companies, 75% of the people polled said they would prefer their insurance to government healthcare. There is no such thing as 48 million people dying from lack of healthcare. In Illinois, we have hospitals and clinics that see people for no charge. Every hospital is mandated to take a patient in the emergency room, regardless.
I don't deny that the system is broken...when you go to the emergency room and get charged $220 for a child's suppository of Tylenol with Codeine and they tell you it is to cover the people who don't pay (this happened to me), the system is broken. People abusing the system-happens all over. Everyone should have to pay $50 to go to the Emergency room, regardless, if they are not admitted to the hospital. This would end the hangnails, etc. (but you would still have deadbeats who won't pay a penny).
In Canada, people constantly abuse the system because it's free. When you have a true emergency, you are stuck waiting in long lines. My Dad's heart stopped while we were waiting for care (off in a room on our own), and they knew he was in the midst of a heart attack. My grandmother was denied a new pacemaker when hers wore out because she was too elderly. They figured it was best she die.
We may have a lot of problems in our system, but we do have the best healthcare in the world--innovations, etc. If the new system was so grand, wouldn't the politicians want to be a part of it, rather than exempting themselves? Hmmm?
If the new system was so grand, wouldn't the politicians want to be a part of it, rather than exempting themselves? Hmmm?
I keep seeing people here post something like this, and I don't understand where it's coming from. Explain to me how, or show me where in the law, the politicians have "exempted" themselves from the "new system" -- the President and his family, and the members of Congress and their families, are all covered under the FEHBP (Federal Employees Health Benefit Program), the same as every Federal employee from them to the people mopping the floors at the VA or typing and filing at your local Social Security office. They will continue to be covered by the FEHBP under the new law, just as the (what was the figure? 80%?) of the general public currently covered under insurance provided through their employers will continue to be covered by that same insurance provided through their employers.
This notion that the "politicians" have somehow "exempted" themselves from the new law is just another piece of right-wing disinformation.
I am afraid of this bill. I believe it will lower the quality of health care while pushing up the cost. In NJ, charity care is nearly nonexistent, and medicare only pays a fraction of the cost. The Gov. is already saying that they will save money lowering reimbursements. I agree that something had to be done, but not this. There is no tort reform, little to prevent fraud, and too much garbage that shouldn't be there.
I would have more respect for the bill if it wasn't forced upon us. We weren't even allowed to see it until right before it went to the vote. I still wouldn't like it, but I wouldn't think it should be shot at dawn.
an d just today in the paper I read that Christy is giving millions to NJ hsps for charity care-this after he has given the ax to many health ssistive programs...
I'm sorry, I missed something. Can you please explain how it will create jobs and decrease taxes??? Won't it increase taxes because the money has to come from somewhere?
if we no longer have to fund charity care in NJ...somebody needs to share this with our governor...
We have had mandatory health care here in Massachusetts for about 3 years now. I find it interesting that this was never brought into any of the discussions , any where any news outlet, any debate ,anything. You are fined a penalty at tax time if you have not had insurance . I still do not know how I feel about this. I went from the micu to the ED about 2 years ago. I have to tell you the abuse of the health care system at the tax payers expense is discusting! They come into the ED for HCG testing, STDS, allergies, ear wax, constipation, splinters, rx for tylenol , refills, etc .I could go on with this ridiculous list. I always ask this question "did you call your pcp before coming to the ed?" 'NOPE " is always the answer. I have a 75 dollar co pay for the ED. Why dont they? They have fake nails, cell phones, Ed hardy sweatsuits, gucci bags, draped in gold and they cant pay a co pay? They cant get 3 dollar hcg test at CVS? Buy a bottle of generic tylenol? Get some colace? Call there doctor?
I emailed my senetor about this. I was so fed up with the abuse I see every day. It is a federal law "you come into the ed you get seen" period. That is fine . Fine come in for a splinter but pay at the door. geesh .it would be cheaper for us to hand out 10 dollar CVS cards at the triage desk!
So much is wrong with "health " (cough)care.This has been YEARS in the making ,this festering pool of disaster, waste, entitlement. It is not Obama's fault .it not even Bush's fault (that is hard for me to say) . Its not the dems or the gops fault. massachusetts mandatory health care bill came from a republican gov . It is Romneycare.I dont know whos fault it is . I really do not even care. I care about how are we going to fix this?
We as nurses are the biggest advocates for change. WE know where the waste is :Ceo pay, Top heavy management,health insurance co, goverment paperwork ,stupid ED visits, lack of preventive care, entitlements, Gov red tape, blah ,blah , blah. so what are we going to do about it?
I have heard of some hsp er's that have set up "medi-merge" clinics-surly this seems like a win-win situation-non-emergent cases get seen at a different place-and the er takes care of real EMERGENCIES. It would be nice to see all hsps have the guts to follow through on this....
Yes, and I got what I voted for, but I suppose you did not.
Actually, I got what you voted for too. And I'm fine with that. Majority rules.
This is America, and unlike most Americans, I chose to be here. It is still the greatest country in the world. But people are going to be in for a shock when the plan is in full force. It's not what they said it is, will cost too much, and is going to ruin health care.
Has the Gov never heard of baby steps rather then taking a running jump off a cliff.
If these problems occur (and I think they will), who will we complain to? We won't be able to complain to the government. Who regulates, oversees, or disciplines the federal government?
"Gentlemen, here is your republic; good luck keeping it." B.Franklin referring to the newly- founded United States of America. A Constitutional Republic, not a democracy.
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We have had mandatory health care here in Massachusetts for about 3 years now. I find it interesting that this was never brought into any of the discussions , any where any news outlet, any debate ,anything. You are fined a penalty at tax time if you have not had insurance . I still do not know how I feel about this. I went from the micu to the ED about 2 years ago. I have to tell you the abuse of the health care system at the tax payers expense is discusting! They come into the ED for HCG testing, STDS, allergies, ear wax, constipation, splinters, rx for tylenol , refills, etc .I could go on with this ridiculous list. I always ask this question "did you call your pcp before coming to the ed?" 'NOPE " is always the answer. I have a 75 dollar co pay for the ED. Why dont they? They have fake nails, cell phones, Ed hardy sweatsuits, gucci bags, draped in gold and they cant pay a co pay? They cant get 3 dollar hcg test at CVS? Buy a bottle of generic tylenol? Get some colace? Call there doctor?
I emailed my senetor about this. I was so fed up with the abuse I see every day. It is a federal law "you come into the ed you get seen" period. That is fine . Fine come in for a splinter but pay at the door. geesh .it would be cheaper for us to hand out 10 dollar CVS cards at the triage desk!
So much is wrong with "health " (cough)care.This has been YEARS in the making ,this festering pool of disaster, waste, entitlement. It is not Obama's fault .it not even Bush's fault (that is hard for me to say) . Its not the dems or the gops fault. massachusetts mandatory health care bill came from a republican gov . It is Romneycare.I dont know whos fault it is . I really do not even care. I care about how are we going to fix this?
We as nurses are the biggest advocates for change. WE know where the waste is :Ceo pay, Top heavy management,health insurance co, goverment paperwork ,stupid ED visits, lack of preventive care, entitlements, Gov red tape, blah ,blah , blah. so what are we going to do about it?