Nurses have simply had enough and are walking out of acute care. How far will it go? Have we seen the peak yet?
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Here are some conversations that are taking place at hospitals everywhere across the country. Do they sound familiar?
"Did you hear Kim is leaving?”
"Kim !?? Kim in Step down?? Nooo! You don't mean Kim! She's been here forever!”
"Ya! and I hear 2 more step down nurses turned in their notice.”
Nurses left behind while their colleagues and friends grieve the loss. Years, decades, even, of experience walk out the door, leaving those behind to pick up the slack and cope with working with an inexperienced workforce.
Later on at the same hospital, at the evening command center safety huddle, it's reported that 28 nurses are out on leave.
The educators in Staff Development are informed that 26 travelers are coming on Tuesday of this week, and must be onboarded.
Where are all the nurses going?
My sister works in a hospital across the country from me and nurses are running out of her hospital as well. "Where are they going?", I ask. "Anywhere", she says. "Just out of here.”
It's one thing to work hard and pull together for a national emergency. It's another to work hard with no end in sight and to not feel valued.
COVID was the tipping point. COVID took a stressed-out, unappreciated workforce and pushed it over the edge. Exhaustion coupled with unappreciation equals nurses talking with their feet.
Conversations continue.
"I saw the MedSurg manager taking care of patients this morning!.”
"Seriously, did she even have Pyxis access? She hasn't worked bedside in 8 years! How come the charge nurse isn't taking patients instead?"
"She is! She's charge and has a full load.”
The boilerpot situation breeds deep frustration and anger...and anger wants a target. Staff who have worked at their hospital day in and day out, month after month, year after year, are orienting travelers making twice as much pay. Meanwhile, staff nurses' phones are blowing up with requests begging them to stay later, come in earlier, and work on their days off.
Nurses are angry at managers and Directors who are seen as out of touch and insensitive. Administration blames managers if their staff leave. "We all know employees leave or stay because of their managers.” Ironically administration rarely asks nurses themselves what it would take for them to stay.
Brenda, an NP who loves ED medicine, is quitting and going to work in a plastics office because she can no longer tolerate the chaos.
When COVID resurged with the Delta Variant, and the ED staff was stocking tents erected in the parking lot in 108 degree weather, she texted her manager to see about getting some flats of chilled bottled water for the staff. Her manager texted back she was out getting body work done on her car.
Nurses are angry when work gets shifted to them from other departments. An out-of-ratio ICU RN caring for 3 ICU level patients with one patient alone on 4 different antibiotics went to the Pyxis only to discover that suddenly this morning, she has to mix and label her own antibiotics. She calls Pharmacy and is told, "It's because we're short-staffed".
Nurses are angry at patients who brought this on themselves. Nurses put their lives on the line once for over a year, but many aren't willing to do it again for people who could have been vaccinated but chose not to.
Signs on patient doors say PAPR required for aerosol inducing procedures...what..? We aren't routinely given PAPRs, just N95s! Is the sign wrong? Or is the practice wrong? Are we at risk? Why can't we trust the information we're given?
Nurses are practicing in chaos with conflicting directions and changing guidelines. Discovering that they weren't protected after all. There's distrust in government agencies and hospital administrations.
"I heard 3 nurses turned in their notice on 7SE.”
"Wow. Maybe I'll quit, too.”Leaving is contagious. It starts as a trickle and ends up a flood. I'm not at all sure it's possible to stop it midstream, but could it have been prevented?
What do you think? Why are nurses quitting?
1 hour ago, EMTdude said:It’s funny reading these comments “I made lower than minimum wage!” “I have 20, or 40 patients that I have to do Adl’s and there’s no end in sight” BUT I bet 95% of the RN’s complaining on this forum were 100% okay when it was their PCA and tech experiencing the same thing, and all while the techs and PCA’s also had to go to school full time, AND we’re making LESS than minimum wage (at least I was, working in Boulder, CO in 2018 at less than $11 an hour, despite the median income being over 75k for the city.
Seems like a lot of nurses never really cared about fairness and wages, except for their own, and now nursing as a whole is in a crunch… when you loose sight of caring for one another, and that means the people below you, then you have nothing to stand on because you are the ones who never respected or cared about the foundation that supported you without a fault (or hard work many do for decades, and RN’s say anything because the way the majority treat their PCA’s is that they “don’t matter” or it’s “just the way it is”.
You’re not the only ones who have had their dreams crushed by terrible coworkers, and policies all meant to make you feel the squeeze - besides, “that’s just the way it is now”.
You have made some concerning points relevant to your experience in nursing as a PCT. However, it is unwise to generalize. Nurses also attend school and work. Not all nurses refuse to help their Tech. Nurses do respect their PCTs.
You appear to be saying : Nurses it serves you right. That is mean spirited. As another poster said, you have a chip on your shoulder.
Your concerns are not the point of this thread, the topic is "why are nurses fleeing the hospital"; not "Nurses look down on the PCTs and treat them like crap". Start another thread for that subject and you will get more pointed feedback.
On 8/24/2021 at 10:17 AM, LibraNurse27 said:I think a good portion of the “one percent” lives here in the Bay Area, and wealthy people are complaining about the wait times and lack of service at restaurants. I went to a restaurant (outdoors and I’m vaccinated!) this weekend, and the tables were dirty, food took forever to come, items forgotten, even some of the plates dirty. I noticed they had only 3 servers for probably 60 tables.
We didn’t complain because the 3 people looked extremely stressed. We asked for the table to be wiped off and take the stuff that never showed up off the bill, but not in an angry way, and gave a good tip. Servers experience abuse from customers and here they are making more on unemployment so I totally get why they would prefer to stay home. Many of the people still showing up to service jobs here are undocumented so can’t get unemployment. Maybe wealthy people will start supporting increased wages and workers’ rights if lots of essential businesses close. Instead of those making millions a year voting down propositions to increase the minimum wage. But some super wealthy are leaving the state because they’re tired of being taxed so high for all the social programs here, so we’re not yet moving toward fixing wealth inequity.
I am the same. Good on you. You have class and empathy. I like that about you.
On 8/24/2021 at 9:21 AM, vintagegal said:It’s not just nursing. There is an exodus of the work force in general. Everywhere there is a “now hiring” sign. Many people are fed up with the abuse from customers/pts/management.
I worked previously as a DON in LTC. People were always calling off even pre covid. So I worked, 16 12 hr shifts in a row, with no day off, caring for 40 people entire care from ADLs to meds. I was devastated at how dangerous that was. I begged my company for help, begged my manager for help. I got laughed at. Actually laughed at, and they told me to deal with it because that’s my position. And I was on salary.And the director of the entire building? She liked to get her nails done, and come to work Tuesday through Thursday 10-4. She didn’t even pick up the phone. “Not her job”. When she was trained to be a PCA…
I was Not even making minimum wage with the hours I was putting in. So yes I left. Had enough of working every holiday, every weekend, every night shift that someone decided they were too hung over to work.
I made peanuts for a wage while everyone else in higher management was busy cashing in. I begged for travelers. They said no because it was too expensive.
there is no loyalty with employment anymore. As a worker, you are used and abused to the extent that they can use you. Employers leverage what they can get out of you and then throw you away.
I worked LTC for a while, it wasnt quite that bad, but it was still bad!! Very similar. No empathy for nursing staff whatsoever. We were really disrespected by everyone above the DON.
4 minutes ago, anewsns said:I worked LTC for a while, it wasnt quite that bad, but it was still bad!! Very similar. No empathy for nursing staff whatsoever. We were really disrespected by everyone above the DON.
I also worked LTC a while. Disrespect came at us from all angles---not just admin but families and residents, too---as well as other nurses who thought we worked there because we were not "good enough" for other specialties. I could not last. My hat is off to those who do.
I am a 30 year nurse that has been away from the bedside for 10 years. Prior to leaving the bedside I worked a very busy mother/baby unit for 10 years and prior to that ED/NICU/L&D and oncology. The 10 years I spent on mother/baby were some of the best nursing experiences in my entire career. One of the things I enjoyed most was working with student nurses and Summer nurse externs. However, I was told by almost all of these student nurses and Summer externs they did not plan to be bedside nurses. These nurses planned to work their "required" 1 year of bedside nursing before moving into management or NP school. Maybe Covid just nudged someone who never really wanted to work at the bedside into quitting.
3 hours ago, cgw5364 said:I am a 30 year nurse that has been away from the bedside for 10 years. Prior to leaving the bedside I worked a very busy mother/baby unit for 10 years and prior to that ED/NICU/L&D and oncology. The 10 years I spent on mother/baby were some of the best nursing experiences in my entire career. One of the things I enjoyed most was working with student nurses and Summer nurse externs. However, I was told by almost all of these student nurses and Summer externs they did not plan to be bedside nurses. These nurses planned to work their "required" 1 year of bedside nursing before moving into management or NP school. Maybe Covid just nudged someone who never really wanted to work at the bedside into quitting.
I actually haven’t seen this at my facility. Maybe it’s a matter of where you work. One thing though is that I think a lot of these nurses realize they are easily thrown away and undervalued by these facilities. Most administration lacks common sense and would rather spend thousands upon thousands of dollars to train new grads then retain their experienced nurses. Most realize it is better to transfer from hospital to hospital system every few years to increase pay rate rather than stay dedicated to their own hospital because they never get a pay raise. The list goes on and on. I know I have no desire to go into management - especially not in this day and age. I have seen so many NPs having to go back to bedside because of lack of jobs in my area….the list goes on and on. Sometimes I think the new grads are smarter about how the healthcare systems use and abuse them so they simply employ the same attitude.
On 8/23/2021 at 4:52 PM, Wuzzie said:14 nurses on one floor just gave their 2 weeks notice on the same day! Rumor has it that our hospital is not hiring any regular staff and is planning on only hiring travelers in an attempt to bust our union. We have no code or RRT teams at the moment. Ambulatory floats have been pulled in-patient. They’d pull us too but we are already at least 10 nurses short on the daily. The CNO recently told us that if we don’t like how things are, “Amazon is hiring”. Our manager massively threw us under the bus then immediately went on vacation leaving us to try to clean up the mess. Her last message to us…”Peace Out”. Since she’s been back all she’s done is hide in her office with the door closed and a “do not disturb” sign on it. Our annual reviews are due…I can only imagine how those are going to turn out, they don’t want to pay us. Morale is the worst I’ve ever seen it in over 30 decades of nursing. The lack of respect from the top down is stunning. I’d run too if I could but I can’t take the massive financial risk.
Horror-ible!
I received notice from the union rep while I was on vacation that indicates our hospital administration is planning on going out of ratio, floating more staff (unsafely) and just plain ol' pushing all the crisis on to the front life staff.
I heard a rumor that the CEO (a doctor) has been walking around asking every one but staff how to get staff to come to work. Um... ask the staff? Your managers don't... so if you are asking them... they are making up their answers. So none of your solutions will work, because you won't be able to properly define the problems!
I will find out next week, when I get back, what kind of floating and ratios I will actually see. But I have to go in on the last 2 days of my vacation to do some EHR training.
Pretty funny to get an offer of more bonuses to show up for more shifts, then the next day be threatened to be taken off the schedule if EHR training not completed by a random date. Sad, sad, sad
9 hours ago, Jedrnurse said:re: #2 - Poor choice of words, as some uninformed idio..., I mean, folks out there think that the vaccine gives you the disease.
And in response to it being a reason for nurses leaving, well, good riddance.
Re: Gary Mendoza's comments. I agree that a small but significant percentage of nurses are leaving their practice because they feel forced to get vaccinated. They were there during the first two surges caring for everyone and being called 'heroes.' Now that they do not wish to vaccinate (controlling their own medical decisions), they are being legislated out of a job leaving them feeling like 'zeroes.' Whatever the science, some nurses will leave rather than vaccinate. This will affect those left behind.
5 hours ago, MD married to RN said:Now that they do not wish to vaccinate (controlling their own medical decisions), they are being legislated out of a job leaving them feeling like 'zeroes.' Whatever the science, some nurses will leave rather than vaccinate. This will affect those left behind.
Not as much as the un-vaccinated and exposed ones do. At my facility if you are unvaccinated and get exposed it's an automatic 10 days off work. Guess who gets to cover those holes...the vaccinated because if we're exposed we only have to be tested on day 3-5 but we can come to work. Sorry, not feeling particularly sympathetic.
9 hours ago, SunDazed said:I will find out next week, when I get back, what kind of floating and ratios I will actually see. But I have to go in on the last 2 days of my vacation to do some EHR training.
Pretty funny to get an offer of more bonuses to show up for more shifts, then the next day be threatened to be taken off the schedule if EHR training not completed by a random date. Sad, sad, sad
Tell them you'll get it done after vacation.
4 hours ago, JKL33 said:Tell them you'll get it done after vacation.
Doesn't seem in their best interest to take you off the schedule! Is that really even a threat?!
Also, The NY Times article I posted is under fire for interviewing 1 bedside nurse and I think 7 or 8 executives to talk to them about the nursing crisis. Oops! Can't believe I didn't notice that.
LibraNurse27, BSN, RN
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LOL! True! my bad