This is one of the few things that kind of upsets and bothers me so much in the nursing world (well healthcare in general, but since im in nursing it bothers me when i see it with nurses more)
But so frequently there are so many people who recommend this alternative nonense, to seeking real medical attention, and it really just worries me.
Theres the obvious danger of interactions with real medication, but then it also promotes people to either avoid actually treating their problem. Or it takes money away from going to real healthcare, and instead ends up in the pockets of these charlatans.
In nursing school I saw it so incredibly frequently, and even in the hospital I see it somewhat often. Nurses who tell patients that eating grains causes their diabetes, or ranting about GMOs and this crap. Other nurses who are stubborn/ignorant enough to avoid getting vaccinated (flu shots!) for reasons other than legitimate medical reasons (id never expect someone with a history or guillain barre or allergies to force a shot on themselves)
If medical professionals want to do all this nonsense in their personal lives, thats their right. Its just when they bring it into the workplace and involve patients in it that it really worries me.
When its relatively harmless it doesn't bother me (ie some of the out there ideas that people may have for patients to improve their pain without drugs) fine. But when it just spreads ignorance and confuses the patient, its terrible.
Specializes in Gerontology RN-BC and FNP MSN student.
When people do buy into healthcare and their medicines...where do you think that goes into?
BIG pharma is worse than what you are talking about. The majority of meds out there have side effects that lead to further prescribing of meds...
There is nothing wrong with patient teaching to inform and encourage patients to take part in their plan of care. Herbs have been around longer than modern pharmaceutical companies.
Phizer drug research and development had to shut their doors because they wanted to develop antibiotics for many nightmare bacteria but did not have the money because no one wanted to invest in a drug you only need for 7 days. They will invest in other drugs that people will need for a life time ....because its more lucrative for their pockets.
both type one diabetes and celiac are autoimmune diseases, it is not uncommon to see them in the same patient. on the celiac board I frequent, there have been more than one Type I who was later dx as being celiac, and probably had been for some time. If you are going to rant, you need to have more knowledge about what you are ranting about....
Except most diabetics (around 95% I believe) are type 2, which has nothing whatsoever to do with celiac disease.
When people do buy into healthcare and their medicines...where do you think that goes into?
BIG pharma is worse than what you are talking about. The majority of meds out there have side effects that lead to further prescribing of meds...
There is nothing wrong with patient teaching to inform and encourage patients to take part in their plan of care. Herbs have been around longer than modern pharmaceutical companies.
Phizer drug research and development had to shut their doors because they wanted to develop antibiotics for many nightmare bacteria but did not have the money because no one wanted to invest in a drug you only need for 7 days. They will invest in other drugs that people will need for a life time ....because its more lucrative for their pockets.
Now who is the "Charlitans"?
If Herbals had to undergo the same regulations and scrutiny as real medications, my issue would be far far less if not non existent.
I cant just order a beta blocker from amazon or something. And when I get in it, whatever it says on the label has to be in each pill. It has to be tested for safety
Well, why don't we just tighten the government's control of our lives? They should be taxing and regulating the air we breath too. No gathering or growing herbs without a permit. We need more government regulations. It creates jobs and makes people safe!
Oh dear, Emergent, if your tongue was any further in your cheek, it would be poking thru....
Well, why don't we just tighten the government's control of our lives? They should be taxing and regulating the air we breath too. No gathering or growing herbs without a permit. We need more government regulations. It creates jobs and makes people safe!
Specializes in Addictions/Mental Health, Telemetry.
I do not believe it is ever the nurse's place to discuss their own personal health history or biases with a patient in their care. The patient is being treated based on the physician's orders. If a nurse feels that an alternative or complementary treatment could have merit in a particular patient's situation, then they should discuss that with the attending physician.
One of our emerg docs is also a cardiologist, and happens to practice acupuncture... He uses it frequently on people with migraines in emerg and the patients love him/it. I don't think it's a load of crap and I'd be happy to see someone tell him they think he's practicing nonsense!
One of our emerg docs is also a cardiologist, and happens to practice acupuncture... He uses it frequently on people with migraines in emerg and the patients love him/it. I don't think it's a load of crap and I'd be happy to see someone tell him they think he's practicing nonsense!
A doctor is practicing acupuncture in the emergency room ?
One of our emerg docs is also a cardiologist and happens to practice acupuncture... He uses it frequently on people with migraines in emerg and the patients love him/it. I don't think it's a load of crap and I'd be happy to see someone tell him they think he's practicing nonsense![/quote']
Perfect example of the "begging the claim fallacy"
Well, why don't we just tighten the government's control of our lives? They should be taxing and regulating the air we breath too. No gathering or growing herbs without a permit. We need more government regulations. It creates jobs and makes people safe!
while im a fan of your anti government rant, you cant be serious.
Im not sure if youre some kind of bio engineer or organic chemist or something. But if I bought lets say American Ginseng and opened it up. I have absolutely no way of telling if those pills are filled with American Ginseng, and the amount that the label says it has. For all i know it could be full of corn starch and gelatin and nothing else.
Its not viable to expect people to bring their own herbal supplements to a laboratory and have them tested to make sure that the labeling and contents are accurate.
KRVRN, BSN, RN
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I wouldn't if the practioner hadn't recommended it.