This is one of the few things that kind of upsets and bothers me so much in the nursing world (well healthcare in general, but since im in nursing it bothers me when i see it with nurses more)
But so frequently there are so many people who recommend this alternative nonense, to seeking real medical attention, and it really just worries me.
Theres the obvious danger of interactions with real medication, but then it also promotes people to either avoid actually treating their problem. Or it takes money away from going to real healthcare, and instead ends up in the pockets of these charlatans.
In nursing school I saw it so incredibly frequently, and even in the hospital I see it somewhat often. Nurses who tell patients that eating grains causes their diabetes, or ranting about GMOs and this crap. Other nurses who are stubborn/ignorant enough to avoid getting vaccinated (flu shots!) for reasons other than legitimate medical reasons (id never expect someone with a history or guillain barre or allergies to force a shot on themselves)
If medical professionals want to do all this nonsense in their personal lives, thats their right. Its just when they bring it into the workplace and involve patients in it that it really worries me.
When its relatively harmless it doesn't bother me (ie some of the out there ideas that people may have for patients to improve their pain without drugs) fine. But when it just spreads ignorance and confuses the patient, its terrible.
When people do buy into healthcare and their medicines...where do you think that goes into?
BIG pharma is worse than what you are talking about. The majority of meds out there have side effects that lead to further prescribing of meds...
There is nothing wrong with patient teaching to inform and encourage patients to take part in their plan of care. Herbs have been around longer than modern pharmaceutical companies.
Phizer drug research and development had to shut their doors because they wanted to develop antibiotics for many nightmare bacteria but did not have the money because no one wanted to invest in a drug you only need for 7 days. They will invest in other drugs that people will need for a life time ....because its more lucrative for their pockets.
Now who is the "Charlitans"?
Herbals and other alternative meds are completely unregulated. Too many people believe that natural automatically equals safe, and Big Vitamin isn't exactly motivated by altruism
Nursing philosophy is mostly stating the obvious with a little nonsense sprinkled here and there and the last thing we need is to add witch doctor to the list of nursing nonsense. Let's stick to EBP people ok? Lol
Nursing philosophy is mostly stating the obvious with a little nonsense sprinkled here and there and the last thing we need is to add witch doctor to the list of nursing nonsense. Let's stick to EBP people ok? Lol
So I cant use healing dance as an intervention on my careplans ?
Even if I put that a chiropractor told me so as the rationale .
Specializes in Nurse Leader specializing in Labor & Delivery.
Nursing philosophy is mostly stating the obvious with a little nonsense sprinkled here and there and the last thing we need is to add witch doctor to the list of nursing nonsense. Let's stick to EBP people ok? Lol
GOod thing there is a lot of evidence in favor of the efficacy of many herbal remedies.
Phizer drug research and development had to shut their doors because they wanted to develop antibiotics for many nightmare bacteria but did not have the money because no one wanted to invest in a drug you only need for 7 days. They will invest in other drugs that people will need for a life time ....because its more lucrative for their pockets.
Wait, what? Do you mean Pfizer? Pfizer r&d "shut their doors"??? There is no r&d at all at Pfizer?
ETA: It's legitimate and desirable to consider how the profit motive affects drug development and marketing, and it's certainly germane to the topic under discussion here. But a focus on facts, if they are available, might be a good idea. Perhaps it's a matter of Pfizer being more willing to invest in more profitable drugs? I'm fairly certain there would be news coverage if Pfizer shut down all r&d.
Hmm...EBP....I kinda figure that is when "we always have done it this way" comes up. we do lots of things that have NO EB, check out the link I gave in the migraine thread about diphenhydramine. and, as klone has mentioned, for many herbs, there IS evicence.
Nursing philosophy is mostly stating the obvious with a little nonsense sprinkled here and there and the last thing we need is to add witch doctor to the list of nursing nonsense. Let's stick to EBP people ok? Lol
Hmm...EBP....I kinda figure that is when "we always have done it this way" comes up. we do lots of things that have NO EB, check out the link I gave in the migraine thread about diphenhydramine. and, as klone has mentioned, for many herbs, there IS evicence.
Yet theres no evidence that the herbs listed on the label are even present (active, or in the quantities listed) in the capsules.
What's wrong with a vegan diet? It's not a complicated bizarre way of eating at all.
I do agree what nurses shouldn't be essentially prescribing treatments or diets, but we should be reasonably knowledgeable about what our patients are doing. Calling them quacks is not a good way to establish a therapeutic relationship.
Not_A_Hat_Person, RN
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Herbals and other alternative meds are completely unregulated. Too many people believe that natural automatically equals safe, and Big Vitamin isn't exactly motivated by altruism