Nurse Practitioner had live sex for online viewing

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In Virginia, Susanna Gibson, NP, a candidate for the state legislature, was discovered to have had livestream sex acts with her husband.  "Susanna Gibson encouraged viewers to send her tips—“raising money for a good cause,” she told them—in exchange for performing whatever sex acts the tipper desired. The couple had more than 5,700 followers on Chaturbate."

"The district is one of the few true toss-ups in November's election . . . No matter how the residents of Virginia's 57th District feel about their would-be delegate doing sex work on a public platform, this revelation sure does complicate the election campaign Gibson, a nurse practitioner, is currently running against Republican David Owen, a retiree and former homebuilder . . . What's worse, Gibson dramatically outspent her Republican competitor in their respective primaries, putting her at a major financial disadvantage going into the general election. In the Democratic primary earlier this year, Gibson spent $300,000 of the $377,000 she has raised to beat rival Democrat Bob Shippee, while Owen, the Republican, spent just half his funds, since he had no primary opponent."

Regardless of Ms. Gibson's politics, this shows an appalling lack of judgment.  Part of me finds this funny, but it also is upsetting, as NPs have been fighting so hard for respect.  She can do what she wants, but to think this would not be discovered if she ran for office?  Unbelievable.

Specializes in Research & Critical Care.
beachynurse said:

While I am aware of this clause, I also feel, who are they to judge these people? Unless the action effects her nursing practice, what's the big deal? We nurses are held to a significantly higher standard than any other medical professional, or individual, and I don't think it's fair. Despite the load that we carry on our shoulders at work, we are not able to say that we have any kind of mental illness or we take medications for them. We may end up with a restricted license or worse, have a revocation. I know plenty of fine reliable nurses that have mental issues and are compliant with their treatment and meds. These nurses have no problems in their practice, their practice helped shape their anxiety and depression. Nurses are people too, why can't they just let us be unless there is a problem with practice. 

To be fair, the first part of her post deals with the BON and conduct like fraud, practicing outside scope, abuse, neglect, etc. I suppose depending on the state these regulations can be twisted to justify anything on unprofessional or moral grounds, however.

The views in the article that was posted are a little more problematic in my opinion, though. A quote from that article:

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A second high-risk area are posts that could be considered unprofessional or reflect unethical conduct—anything defined as unbecoming of the nursing profession

I agree with you. Who's the one who sits down and judges what is defined as "unbecoming" of a nurse and what gives them that right? We're all human. From where I sit, part of the problem is nurses tearing down other nurses. You don't have to look much further than some of the viewpoints in this thread as an example.

Specializes in Psychiatric and Mental Health NP (PMHNP).
MaxAttack said:

To be fair, the first part of her post deals with the BON and conduct like fraud, practicing outside scope, abuse, neglect, etc. I suppose depending on the state these regulations can be twisted to justify anything on unprofessional or moral grounds, however.

The views in the article that was posted are a little more problematic in my opinion, though. A quote from that article:

I agree with you. Who's the one who sits down and judges what is defined as "unbecoming" of a nurse and what gives them that right? We're all human. From where I sit, part of the problem is nurses tearing down other nurses. You don't have to look much further than some of the viewpoints in this thread as an example.

I don't know how anyone could come up with a "perfect" system.  There are some clear-cut behaviors that are clearly unprofessional/unethical:  nurses who post info/pics that violate HIPAA on their social media, nurses that brag on social media that they went to work high on drugs, etc.  

As for the rest, does anyone know if it is a problem?  Are nurses being disciplined without a good reason?

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
FullGlass said:

I don't know how anyone could come up with a "perfect" system.  There are some clear-cut behaviors that are clearly unprofessional/unethical:  nurses who post info/pics that violate HIPAA on their social media, nurses that brag on social media that they went to work high on drugs, etc.  

As for the rest, does anyone know if it is a problem?  Are nurses being disciplined without a good reason?

Yes, there are nurses disciplined without good reason. Some work environments are very toxic.  

I don't see what the big deal is if a) they were both consenting adults doing legal acts and b) she didn't mention her employer or do anything that involves being an NP in her videos. This sounds more like a political smear campaign than an NP professionalism issue. Whether or not her job decides to keep her is up to them, and so is whether or not people choose to vote for her. I personally would never do SW or similar work, but if I had a coworker or something who did, I would mind my own business and focus on work. Her being a politician complicates things because being a public figure puts issues like this at the forefront. I remember Trump's model wife took photos of a certain nature in the past and I don't judge her either. 

Specializes in School Nursing.
~Shrek~ said:

I don't see what the big deal is if a) they were both consenting adults doing legal acts and b) she didn't mention her employer or do anything that involves being an NP in her videos. This sounds more like a political smear campaign than an NP professionalism issue. Whether or not her job decides to keep her is up to them, and so is whether or not people choose to vote for her. I personally would never do SW or similar work, but if I had a coworker or something who did, I would mind my own business and focus on work. Her being a politician complicates things because being a public figure puts issues like this at the forefront. I remember Trump's model wife took photos of a certain nature in the past and I don't judge her either. 

I totally agree with you. I believe in minding my own business, and as long as it doesn't effect me let them do their thing. I would never be involved in that line of work but if that is what they like to do as consenting adults, let them do it if its not illegal. It's on their own time, not while they are working, aren't we allowed to have lives???? 

 

Specializes in Geriatrics.

This shows the complete and utter boredom of Americans. We are so bored that we amuse ourselves with spending thousands of dollars to watch inappropriate videos of a couple. I can think of a million other things to do with my money than that. What a shame all the way around. Are people losing it? The complete deterioration of society has been evident in the last 5 years. I mean, 10 years ago I would hear about weird things like this once in a blue moon, now it's every day. It's like we're being desensitized to complete nuttiness. Don't get me wrong, whatever floats your boat. Do whatever you want, as for me and my house, you get the picture. 

Specializes in School Nursing.
vintagegal said:

This shows the complete and utter boredom of Americans. We are so bored that we amuse ourselves with spending thousands of dollars to watch inappropriate videos of a couple. I can think of a million other things to do with my money than that. What a shame all the way around. Are people losing it? The complete deterioration of society has been evident in the last 5 years. I mean, 10 years ago I would hear about weird things like this once in a blue moon, now it's every day. It's like we're being desensitized to complete nuttiness. Don't get me wrong, whatever floats your boat. Do whatever you want, as for me and my house, you get the picture. 

This kind of thing is nothing new. I'm originally from NY, and I know that there were blocks of "peep shows" in certain areas of the city, and probably still are. Hearing about things like this are really nothing new to me, I've known for many many years. But then again, I also won't judge. Who am I to say that these videos are inappropriate? I don't think that is fair. So if they are inappropriate for you, don't watch them. I'm not trying to be smart, but we have so many people being the morality police today, and almost everything can be considered to be inappropriate based on one thing or another. I am a firm believer that as medical professionals, we are not judgmental in order to provide care for all. Are we going to start limiting care because I don't like what someone is doing? I might not be into what this couple is into, and I am not interested in watching either, but that is their thing, let them be.. It's really none of our business.  

I know a very bright, articulate young woman who was a pole dancer when she was younger in order to pay her bills, and work her way through school. She did what she had to do to get through some very hard times, and is now very successful in the medical field. This young lady was a student in a class that I taught in a local community college, and I am still in touch with her today. 

Specializes in kids.
FullGlass said:

What is your thinking here?  She is a Democrat.  Democrats are generally liberal.  Republicans are conservative.  Conservatives would not support a candidate like this.  And frankly, a lot of Democrats would not, either.  

Some D's have been known to ship  and this behavior is much more acceptable/promoted on the right than than the  left, IMHO

Specializes in Geriatrics.
beachynurse said:

This kind of thing is nothing new. I'm originally from NY, and I know that there were blocks of "peep shows" in certain areas of the city, and probably still are. Hearing about things like this are really nothing new to me, I've known for many many years. But then again, I also won't judge. Who am I to say that these videos are inappropriate? I don't think that is fair. So if they are inappropriate for you, don't watch them. I'm not trying to be smart, but we have so many people being the morality police today, and almost everything can be considered to be inappropriate based on one thing or another. I am a firm believer that as medical professionals, we are not judgmental in order to provide care for all. Are we going to start limiting care because I don't like what someone is doing? I might not be into what this couple is into, and I am not interested in watching either, but that is their thing, let them be.. It's really none of our business.  

I know a very bright, articulate young woman who was a pole dancer when she was younger in order to pay her bills, and work her way through school. She did what she had to do to get through some very hard times, and is now very successful in the medical field. This young lady was a student in a class that I taught in a local community college, and I am still in touch with her today. 

This is the float your boat category. 

Specializes in Psychiatric and Mental Health NP (PMHNP).
NutmeggeRN said:

Some D's have been known to ship  and this behavior is much more acceptable/promoted on the right than than the  left, IMHO

I have no idea what you are talking about.  Your sentence makes no sense.

Specializes in ER.

Whenever someone says "I'm not judgmental", or "I don't judge", I pretty much disregard what they are about to say.  First of all, everyone makes judgments of one type or another. And the people who say they are not judgmental always are, about one thing or another. It's like the person who says "I'm not trying to offend you". You'd better believe that they are about to say something offensive, guaranteed.

Emergent said:

Whenever someone says "I'm not judgmental", or "I don't judge", I pretty much disregard what they are about to say.  First of all, everyone makes judgments of one type or another. And the people who say they are not judgmental always are, about one thing or another. It's like the person who says "I'm not trying to offend you". You'd better believe that they are about to say something offensive, guaranteed.

If they drop the "I don't mean to judge, but…” I can see the correlation. But people can live a life and not choose to outwardly judge. Maybe they make different choices personally, but just articulating that people shouldn't outwardly cast judgment doesn't make them a hypocrite. I personally wouldn't make the choices these people made but I don't personally get that lifestyle. I also wouldn't suggest it's not conducive to their professional life. That would be casting judgment suggesting their personal not harmful proclivities reflect on their job. The problem here is the person is running for public office which opens you up to an array of public ridicule; right or wrong. Which is another life choice I couldn't imagine anyone wanting to make in this age  

I ride motorcycles and hang out with an array of folks from both questionable to professional backgrounds. If someone saw me at a motorcycle rally around a bunch of scruffy looking degenerates, it doesn't make me a bad nurse practitioner.  It also doesn't change the way I practice nor open me up to influences that are worse than any other vice an average person could get into.  It just means in have a thicker immune system than many. ?

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