In Virginia, Susanna Gibson, NP, a candidate for the state legislature, was discovered to have had livestream sex acts with her husband. "Susanna Gibson encouraged viewers to send her tips—“raising money for a good cause,” she told them—in exchange for performing whatever sex acts the tipper desired. The couple had more than 5,700 followers on Chaturbate."
"The district is one of the few true toss-ups in November's election . . . No matter how the residents of Virginia's 57th District feel about their would-be delegate doing sex work on a public platform, this revelation sure does complicate the election campaign Gibson, a nurse practitioner, is currently running against Republican David Owen, a retiree and former homebuilder . . . What's worse, Gibson dramatically outspent her Republican competitor in their respective primaries, putting her at a major financial disadvantage going into the general election. In the Democratic primary earlier this year, Gibson spent $300,000 of the $377,000 she has raised to beat rival Democrat Bob Shippee, while Owen, the Republican, spent just half his funds, since he had no primary opponent."
Regardless of Ms. Gibson's politics, this shows an appalling lack of judgment. Part of me finds this funny, but it also is upsetting, as NPs have been fighting so hard for respect. She can do what she wants, but to think this would not be discovered if she ran for office? Unbelievable.
Specializes in Psychiatric and Mental Health NP (PMHNP).
toomuchbaloney said:
This is a political discussion and should be moved to the Breakroom.
Why? We are not discussing politics per se. We are discussing conduct and the dangers of putting one's personal sexual material online, even texting to someone. This goes far beyond politics.
This is not a discussion of this person's political platform.
I do not understand why you keep harping on moving this discussion. I guess it might go under Career, but the ramifications of this go far beyond just career. I just posted news stories that demonstrate having one's sexual/nude photos/videos leaked can be personally devastating. So everyone, not just women, should be aware of this.
I was just disappointed to see an NP do this, because it is such a stupid thing to do.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
FullGlass said:
Why? We are not discussing politics per se. We are discussing conduct and the dangers of putting one's personal sexual material online, even texting to someone. This goes far beyond politics.
This is not a discussion of this person's political platform.
I do not understand why you keep harping on moving this discussion. I guess it might go under Career, but the ramifications of this go far beyond just career. I just posted news stories that demonstrate having one's sexual/nude photos/videos leaked can be personally devastating. So everyone, not just women, should be aware of this.
I was just disappointed to see an NP do this, because it is such a stupid thing to do.
You said yourself that this was about politics and whether someone who would do this should run for or be elected to office. That comment was in the post I quoted when I made this most recent request.
Nothing surprises me. I think the face of professionalism in politics has definitely changed. Clearly there isn't much of a standard based on what we see day in and day out. That being said, if people like her values and don't judge her, then vote.
Specializes in Psychiatric and Mental Health NP (PMHNP).
toomuchbaloney said:
You said yourself that this was about politics and whether someone who would do this should run for or be elected to office. That comment was in the post I quoted when I made this most recent request.
Has anyone anywhere in this thread discussed this idiot's political platform? No.
I said it was foolish for someone to do this if they are running for office. In addition, I said it was foolish given professional NP ramifications. And I also said it could cause a lot of heartbreak given that women have been tormented by nude pictures of themselves.
If you want to start a thread on this in the Breakroom or under Politics, then go ahead and do so.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
FullGlass said:
Has anyone anywhere in this thread discussed this idiot's political platform? No.
I said it was foolish for someone to do this if they are running for office. In addition, I said it was foolish given professional NP ramifications. And I also said it could cause a lot of heartbreak given that women have been tormented by nude pictures of themselves.
If you want to start a thread on this in the Breakroom or under Politics, then go ahead and do so.
Nah. I don't think it deserves the attention it's getting while also thinking that it isn't a nursing topic.
There is no concern over NP license being denied due to sexual orientation. How on earth did you come up with that one? I believe sexual orientation is a civil rights issue and discrimination based on that is illegal.
You missed the point. We can agree that what she is doing is not illegal, correct? So what we're dealing with is essentially an issue of morality. The trouble with morals is that they're not the same for everyone. This is why I used the example of homosexuality. Or take abortion. Legal, but there are those who protest outside clinics with signs and saying all sorts of terrible things because in their opinion abortion is wrong. This is why I said morality is a slippery slope. At the end of the day, there is very little difference between thinking a candidate is unfit for office for what she did and thinking a candidate is unfit because of their sexual orientation (*as an example*).
If I'm being honest, thinking it's acceptable behavior to call this woman pathetic puts you and Emergent in the same class as abortion clinic protestors IMO. Just grab some pitchforks and knock her down a few. A perfect example of how what's right and wrong can vary between two individuals.
Specializes in Psychiatric and Mental Health NP (PMHNP).
MaxAttack said:
We can agree that what she is doing is not illegal, correct? So what we're dealing with is essentially an issue of morality.
No, the issue is a question of judgment. This NP demonstrated very poor judgment.
As far as morality, sorry, but that is an issue that is pervasive and you can't legislate people from making moral judgments. For example, in the US, most people have no issue with a woman wearing a tank top in a casual environment. However, some religions would view this as immodest and immoral, and prohibit women from wearing tank tops or other attire they deem immodest.
I never suggested this NP could lose her license or that she should. Some may argue what she did is "moral turpitude," which can be grounds for losing a nursing license. However, that usually just refers to conviction for a felony.
As for me, I would not vote for someone who does blatantly stupid things like this, nor would I want them for my healthcare provider. But that is just me. To each his or her own.
toomuchbaloney said:
Nah. I don't think it deserves the attention it's getting while also thinking that it isn't a nursing topic.
You are entitled to your opinion. I don't happen to share it.
No, the issue is a question of judgment. This NP demonstrated very poor judgment.
You're splitting hairs. Defining good or bad "judgment" can be just as problematic. What is considered "good" judgment to one person may not be considered the same to another.
It doesn't really matter. The initial premise of this thread was that it somehow taints respect for all NPs. I reject that. Some have different views but my philosophy tends to be live and let live. If someone's sex life is the defining factor in a politician, vote for the other person.
Specializes in Psychiatric and Mental Health NP (PMHNP).
MaxAttack said:
You're splitting hairs. Defining good or bad "judgment" can be just as problematic. What is considered "good" judgment to one person may not be considered the same to another.
It doesn't really matter. The initial premise of this thread was that it somehow taints respect for all NPs. I reject that. Some have different views but my philosophy tends to be live and let live. If someone's sex life is the defining factor in a politician, vote for the other person.
Nurses often have not read their states Board of Nursing (BON) Practice Act therefore unaware that many BON have "unprofessional conduct" or "moral turpitude" clause as part of RN and LPN regulations --Virginia has both. § 54.1-3007. Refusal, revocation or suspension, censure or probation
Historically, nursing boards have been on the conservative side under duty to protect the public role. It only takes one person to report this public activity for BON investigation to occur. PA has periodically suspended + refused nursing license renewal due to moral turpitude clause. So keep this in mind when deciding to engage in this type activity.
While I am aware of this clause, I also feel, who are they to judge these people? Unless the action effects her nursing practice, what's the big deal? We nurses are held to a significantly higher standard than any other medical professional, or individual, and I don't think it's fair. Despite the load that we carry on our shoulders at work, we are not able to say that we have any kind of mental illness or we take medications for them. We may end up with a restricted license or worse, have a revocation. I know plenty of fine reliable nurses that have mental issues and are compliant with their treatment and meds. These nurses have no problems in their practice, their practice helped shape their anxiety and depression. Nurses are people too, why can't they just let us be unless there is a problem with practice.
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Why? We are not discussing politics per se. We are discussing conduct and the dangers of putting one's personal sexual material online, even texting to someone. This goes far beyond politics.
This is not a discussion of this person's political platform.
I do not understand why you keep harping on moving this discussion. I guess it might go under Career, but the ramifications of this go far beyond just career. I just posted news stories that demonstrate having one's sexual/nude photos/videos leaked can be personally devastating. So everyone, not just women, should be aware of this.
I was just disappointed to see an NP do this, because it is such a stupid thing to do.