NP discusses MJ on national TV ????

[Misslady113]

I just watched CNN and a nurse practioner(she gave her name) was on the phone giving information about Michael Jackson and what he discussed with her and what medication he was given (not by her) for his insomnia. She also talked about when she treated his kids for a cold and what she gave them. Is this legal?? What happened to patient confidentiality?? Can you just go on national TV and discuss a patient because he is dead????

[cursedandblessed]

i don't know in this case, too much is unknown, was she still his nurse, did he ask for drugs after the nurse patient relationship had ended?

i just find it easier to keep my mouth shut about my patients unless it's relaying something to a doc, my ci, or my supervising nurse. it's one of my big pet peeves when my fellow nursing students start running their mouths in the cafeteria, about that patient's such and such, and they id the patient by room number or even worse name.

[beerose]

Jackson's MDs sited HIPPA and kept quiet. No question Cherilyn Lee violated HIPPA. Even prior to HIPPA, she would have been violating patient confidentiality. The question is, will the nursing board take action against her? I hope they do or what good is the law. I don't believe her entire statements because they became grander with each interview. I noticed that she does not have prescription authority as part of her licensure, which explains the nutritional and holistic-only scope of her practice as listed on her business website. She attended a good school that confired both an NP and PA simulaniously (I don't think they still do that). She also has a PhD and therefore is able to advertise herself as Dr Cherilyn Lee. I'm a California NP. Our profession has fought hard to overcome certain perceptions about us. Despite her educational achievements, her unprofessional appearances made us all look bad.

[harmonylove28, MSN, RN]

Apart from the fact that its wrong to say all those things in public or anywhere else. These informations are no longer useful since the person in Question is dead. She was not there when needed so, i wonder she was nursing then and why she's out now.

[avidhunter3]

Jackson's MDs sited HIPPA and kept quiet. No question Cherilyn Lee violated HIPPA. Even prior to HIPPA, she would have been violating patient confidentiality. The question is, will the nursing board take action against her? I hope they do or what good is the law. I don't believe her entire statements because they became grander with each interview. I noticed that she does not have prescription authority as part of her licensure, which explains the nutritional and holistic-only scope of her practice as listed on her business website. She attended a good school that confired both an NP and PA simulaniously (I don't think they still do that). She also has a PhD and therefore is able to advertise herself as Dr Cherilyn Lee. I'm a California NP. Our profession has fought hard to overcome certain perceptions about us. Despite her educational achievements, her unprofessional appearances made us all look bad.

I'm with you, IF what she says is true, I do hope she is charged, as any one of us would be if we violated Hipaa. BUT I really kinda question the validity of ANY of her statements to tell you the truth. I wonder just how much of it is true. And if not for money, then WHY now? If she truley was THAT worried about him, shouldnt she have gotten with his local Doctor to have him deemed mentally incompetent to make his own decisions, and had him hospitalized? Not that the end result would have been different. He was gonna do what he wanted regardless, but who knows when an intervention is going to work.

[beerose]

NPs are independant practitioners, but those rights vary according to each state. Many states require no MD oversight at all. Some require it, as does California, if an NP wishes to prescribe medication or in an independant practice when the NP prescribes. We always move forward to change any laws of MD oversight. The rules can be complicated to understand, but we are not "under a doctor." This does not mean we seek to eliminate our relationship with MDs. We aim to be part of the continuim, such as when an MD refers a patient to a specialist; we refer to an MD when our diagnois and exam deems it is appropriate. Some organizations have rules about referrals and what level of care an NP performs. PAs (physicians assistants) are not independant as of now, but I believe they are working to forward this goal. PAs rules are controlled by the medical boards. NPs rules are controlled by nursing boards. Of course, nurses often need to fight the AMA, through the legislature, to give ourseves the rules we make.

[avidhunter3]

NPs are independant practitioners, but those rights vary according to each state. Many states require no MD oversight at all. Some require it, as does California, if an NP wishes to prescribe medication or in an independant practice when the NP prescribes. We always move forward to change any laws of MD oversight. The rules can be complicated to understand, but we are not "under a doctor." This does not mean we seek to eliminate our relationship with MDs. We aim to be part of the continuim, such as when an MD refers a patient to a specialist; we refer to an MD when our diagnois and exam deems it is appropriate. Some organizations have rules about referrals and what level of care an NP performs. PAs (physicians assistants) are not independant as of now, but I believe they are working to forward this goal. PAs rules are controlled by the medical boards. NPs rules are controlled by nursing boards. Of course, nurses often need to fight the AMA, through the legislature, to give ourseves the rules we make.

thank you for explaining that, I really wasnt sure what NP's actual job descriptions were!

[AtomicWoman]

I was dismayed at the way Deepak Chopra mouthed off right after Jackson's death, either. Trying to make himself look like he wouldn't cave to Jackson's requests for drugs. Ugh.

[Vito Andolini]

I'm so sad about Michael. It's all just so very sad.

I guess this NP's actions will all come out in the wash. I would think she should not be discussing his history on TV.

[ewere]

From what i read i felt MJ has been addicted to the drug .the nurse

did the right thing though she disclose it to the public,she should have

kept it confidencial

[Indy, LPN, LVN]

There do exist words for how I feel about this but it's difficult to say it such that it does not violate the TOS. ANYhow, I'm pretty ticked off that because one freakazoid celebrity managed to not only do drugs but get ahold of general anesthesia medication, we now have little ole diprivan in the national spotlight as a drug of abuse.

In general, and sometimes as glaring individuals, people are STUPID. We are! They are! It's a fact, but for the love of all that is holy, I see that in the future we will be having more difficult access to diprivan and have another dagflabbit piece of paper for two nurses to fill out in order to throw away diprivan, for pete's sake. Yep. One famous idiot dies and the nurses get more work. Why stop mollycoddling the general public there? You know all drugs can kill you, even oxygen, right? OMG the public didn't know that?? Well we have to do something! Quick make the nurses double check each other when they put O2 on a patient! Oh oh oh and make them sign off each other's meds, ALL of 'em. Without having more nurses, too. We got to save money in this economy, you know.

Yep. Stupid. I'm not sorry if I offended any fans, either. I didn't like the celebrity in question in the first place, and now that there's a possibility his death will cause my work habits to be affected, I have only blistering hostility to cast that direction. Dumb people are everywhere, unfortunately things only become interesting when they happen to famous dumb people.

[dawngloves, BSN, RN]

In the interview I saw with her, she said that Michael Jackson asked her to get him Diprivan and she told him, "If you take that, you may not wake up." When his aide called and Michael Jackson was in the backgroung complaining about his half hot/half cold body, she told him to get to a hospital. She didn't know why his body was like that. Who knows if he was on Diprivan at the time?

Now that whole, "he was not a drug addict he just wanted sleep" nonsense....I've had insomnia. You know what I took? 50 mg of Benedryl! Oxycontin, Demerol, nor Diprivan even crossed my mind!

[PostOpPrincess, BSN, RN]

Looks like some line crossing here to me....