Non Clinical Positions For New Grads

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Hey everyone, hope the start of the year has been kind to you all.

I will be finishing an accelerated program in 16 months ABSN and have decided bedside/patient care nursing is not for me.

I'm sure 90% of you will moan and grown about how accelerated programs shouldn't exist and how everyone needs to have 10 years of bedside before being qualified for anything but I am not you and I don't feel the need to go your route.

Seriously, why are people on here bitter and roast everyone who doesn't take their exact path.

Helpful comments only please

Specializes in Critical Care.
On 2/19/2021 at 5:41 PM, Guest856929 said:

Why are you moaning and groaning about the possibility of strangers moaning and groaning? JK. I know you are not trolling. I, for one appreciate your unique post. I haven't seen anything like it here on AN. Anyway, yep, bedside nursing is overrated. Apply to direct entry, accelerated online CRNA programs. Another 16 months and you'll start at 250K. Easy-peasy stuff. 

...I am confused about the above post. Last I checked, any reputable CRNA program requires (at least) two years of ICU bedside experience; and admission being so competitive, that most candidates are usually specialty certified. How do you expect the OP to quality for CRNA school when she/he is asking for non clinical jobs as a new grad? 

4 hours ago, By-a-thred, RN said:

What was your objective when you decided to go in to nursing? 

I was wondering the same thing. 

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18 minutes ago, Delia37 said:

...I am confused about the above post. Last I checked, any reputable CRNA program requires (at least) two years of ICU bedside experience; and admission being so competitive, that most candidates are usually specialty certified. How do you expect the OP to quality for CRNA school when she/he is asking for non clinical jobs as a new grad? 

I couldn't figure out if the poster was being a smart aleck or is ignorant ?‍♀️

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9 minutes ago, Hoosier_RN said:

I couldn't figure out if the poster was being a smart aleck or is ignorant ?‍♀️

I believe the (sarcasm) force was strong with that one...

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2 minutes ago, Jedrnurse said:

I believe the (sarcasm) force was strong with that one...

Lordy, I hope so, but we both know that there have been some really odd things posted on here lately. I wouldn't be a bit shocked

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4 hours ago, Hoosier_RN said:

Lordy, I hope so, but we both know that there have been some really odd things posted on here lately. I wouldn't be a bit shocked

Or the poster could be accurate since nursing and requirements for certain things are forever changing. In order to by an ADN or DON in my area only requires 1 year of bed side nursing and 3 years of management experience and it doesn’t have to be nursing related. And I live in a relatively large metro area. My CEO used to be a car salesman before this. No clinical experience. 

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6 hours ago, Delia37 said:

Last I checked, any reputable CRNA program requires (at least) two years of ICU bedside experience; and admission being so competitive, that most candidates are usually specialty certified. How do you expect the OP to quality for CRNA school when she/he is asking for non clinical jobs as a new grad?

Pretty sure the response was sarcastic.

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9 hours ago, Delia37 said:

...I am confused about the above post. Last I checked, any reputable CRNA program requires (at least) two years of ICU bedside experience; and admission being so competitive, that most candidates are usually specialty certified. How do you expect the OP to quality for CRNA school when she/he is asking for non clinical jobs as a new grad? 

I was wondering the same thing. 

I think it was sarcasm. At least I sure hope it was.

Specializes in Cardiac.

OP, please don’t try to go into management. From your post it seems that you want (have demanded) respect, but with your attitude you will not get it from bedside nurses at all and especially without climbing the ranks. There are many in management and clinical outcomes who have done (often very little) time at the bedside. They (very) quickly forget what bedside nursing is like and often don’t listen to those of us who live in the clinical environment. The changes to routines, documentation and practice often result in huge staff dissatisfaction and really don’t improve patient outcomes. Without bedside experience you will have only theoretical  knowledge of patient care. I could go on citing reasons why clinical/bedside patient care is very important for almost any non clinical job, but I don’t think that you really want to hear it. I think you came here to be validated in your presupposition of not needing or wanting to do the hard work of continuing your education at the bedside. As others have said, no one requires or expects 10 years, but some clinical experience is expected by most employers. Regardless of what you decide to do please choose to speak respectfully to all if you want to be respected, and especially when you are asking for advice. The replies have been wise and kind in spite of your abrasive introduction. Wishing you well in your search for a career....

Specializes in Pediatric nursing: ED, forensic, neuro, triage.

What does bedside/clinical nursing mean to you? I felt similarly in nursing school, and wondered what I had gotten myself into and that I was going to end up a terrible nurse.... but then I had a rotation in a population I fell in love with (peds) and have been able to try so many different things. It takes a very special nurse to work inpatient and it is not the only area you can start in. There’s the OR, ambulatory clinics, ER, urgent care, and insurance companies (doing pre-authorizations)  that might work well with your education but also provide the opportunity to fine tune the skills you need (psycho socially and clinically) to be a great nurse. Good luck

Specializes in Peds ED.

A ton of us here have graduated from accelerated nursing programs so I’m not sure why you think we all hate them.

If by bedside you mean inpatient care, there are lots of other options. The trouble with truly non-bedside work for RNs is that what they want is not just your nursing education but the experience you’ve gained as a nurse. Regardless of where you start the first year you learn so much and discover that nursing school is really just the intro to what it means to be a nurse. 

My accelerated program was huge and had a mix of established career changers and fresh out of their first degree students. I keep up with some of them on social media and a few have left healthcare entirely, a few have mixed their nursing experience with related fields like public health and wellness and medical writing. The latter all did at least a year or two of some form of clinical experience tho.

Bedside care isn’t for everyone and it can be hard to recognize that before actually getting experience. I think the advice to look around at other RN jobs and see what experience they want is good.

Best wishes whatever you decide.

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On 2/19/2021 at 2:39 PM, JBMmom said:

There's legal nursing, or informatics nursing.

As a clarification, informatics would require additional expertise in computer systems, specifically ones used in clinical settings, so somebody with zero clinical experience would be at a disadvantage in applying even if awesome at IT.

As to legal nurse consulting (we don’t nurse legals, LOL) there are many options there, such as case management, forensics, corrections, SANE, insurance, and many others ... all will need at least some background in clinical to start the continuing ED to get certified (without which you may not be a candidate for anything). Working on any side of litigation will require considerably more: if looking at working in-house for a law firm, they’ll want you for your expertise in care, charting, and clinical situations; if looking at being a testifying expert you’d need to be, well, a working expert, which you will certainly not be as a new grad. 
 

I did have a classmate in college who went directly to grad school in ethics, and went on to a stellar career as a nurse ethicist with no clinical on her resume. You might consider that path.

On 2/19/2021 at 8:41 PM, Guest856929 said:
On 2/22/2021 at 3:17 AM, Delia37 said:

Apply to direct entry, accelerated online CRNA programs. Another 16 months and you'll start at 250K. Easy-peasy stuff. 

Umm, since I don’t know of any reputable programs that would accept a new grad c no experience with many seasoned critical care nurses already in line  .... and where are you gonna do anesthesia without patient contact?
 

Oh, hell, go work in an aesthetics spa. They’ll teach you how to give botulinum, do laser hair removal, and plump rich people’s lips and cheeks. I hear it’s decent money and you won’t have to do much if anything that involves 95% of actual nursing. 

Good luck. 

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