No! It is NOT OK.

As a student you learn that the nurse-patient relationship is critical for effective, humane, holistic patient care. You also learn that the communication necessary for a nurse-patient relationship is a two-way street. There is what we say... and there is what the patient hears. Both of these must be precise for optimal nurse-patient interactions to occur. Unfortunately, we all have deeply ingrained linguistic habits that too often garble our communication efforts... and we should NOT be OK with that! Nurses Announcements Archive Article

I have noticed over the years that student-patient interactions are loaded with relationship killing words and phrases. The students are not being unkind. Rather they are speaking without thought or purpose.

Though I don't want students to feel stilted and confined and "fake" when they converse with patients I do want them leave linguistic tics and mannerisms at home. These are fine in "everyday life" but they impede the development of a therapeutic nurse-patient relationship in professional interactions.

The most common example of conversational "tics" is the way we (Americans, at least) punctuate much of what we say with "OK". "OK" is a multi-use tool in common speech. For example:

* We use it to end a conversation. ("OK, OK. I get it. OK?")

* Sometimes we use it to take the sting out of what we've just said. ("Honey, slacks with horizontal stripes are not a good look for you... OK?")

* We use it to determine if our listener is still with us. (Remember teaching lowest-common-denominator to your 5th grader? Having pointed out that 4 goes into 12 as does 3 you look at your child and say "OK?" And of course, their eyes are glazed over!)

But this tic is hugely counter-productive at the bedside. The most common way students use "OK?" seems to reflect some distorted sense of courtesy. For example I often hear students say something like:

"No, Mr. Andrews, those chips your visitor brought you don't go with your cardiac diet. OK?"

Think about what the student did in that interaction. Initially he/she was speaking as a nurse, conveying important information. Then instantly became a petitioner asking the patient if he would be "OK" with refraining from potato chips. The student turned a therapeutic relationship into one that was ambiguous. The patient, hearing this "OK?", is entitled to imagine the student is making a suggestion instead of giving him important information about living with congestive heart failure. This was a "teachable moment" and it was wasted. How much better if the student had said...

"Mr. Andrews... those chips have a lot of salt in them. You'll have to avoid salty foods at home and let me explain why... etc."

The habit of saying "OK?" is also insincere. Students commonly say things like

"Mr. Watson, we have to turn you to your other side now... OK?"

Well, no. In Mr. Watson's mind it is not "OK" because turning hurts. He knows it. The student knows it. And Mr. Watson also knows it's futile to tell the student "no". In this interaction, the student was not honestly asking Mr. Watson's opinion about turning. But... the student could have used this simple nursing task to give the patient some much needed autonomy. The student could have said

"Mr. Watson. It's time to turn. Would you rather face the door or the window?"

Note two things. First, this is a sincere question. As a result, the nurse-patient relationship is strengthened. And second, a previously helpless patient is invited to participate in his care. He is being treated like an adult.

There are times a patient may be going on at some length about a concern (Not uncommonly, this is a "problem patient". Often one the nurses prefer to avoid) For most students the impulse to nod and say... "OK." "Uh huh." "OK" is irresistible . Unfortunately, doing so adds nothing to the conversation and the patient eventually realizes the student nurse is trying to hurry her to the end of her soliloquy.

A much more therapeutic approach is to make eye contact with this patient and listen for recurring themes. (Things that she is telling you multiple times in different words.) These can then be reflected back at appropriate times. In this manner, the student is engaged and the patient knows it. This patient who was previously acting out (because no one would pay attention to her if she didn't)... now feels she has an advocate she can talk to, someone who understands. The nurse-patient relationship is strengthened.

In real life, all of these nursing measures don't work all of the time. But sometimes they actually do. On the other hand... without hesitation or equivocation... I can tell you that just reflexively saying "OK" when speaking to patients adds nothing to your plan of care and may actually impede it.

Okey-dokey. I'll try and remember this.... alrighty?

Am I the only one that think the OP is a total load of crap? It really isn't that serious, ok ?

Am I the only one that think the OP is a total load of crap? It really isn't that serious, ok ?

I agree with you that it really isn't that serious an issue, but that said, semantics can make a difference and clarity in communications is important. To that end, the OP makes some very good points. For example, there are regional and cultural colloquialisms of speech that may be fine for those who are familiar with them, but totally confusing to those who aren't - best to stay away from those.

As far as asking the patient's permission, there is nothing wrong with that. While very appropriate in some circumstances, I'm not a big fan of the "how do you feel about that" approach in general. I much prefer a direct approach that elicits a clear consent to the procedure or treatment.

What I find far more disturbing is the reference in a number of posts as to reinforcing the nurse's position of authority. Let's make something really clear - with the exception of juveniles (if you have their parent's consent) and an adult that has been judged incompetent to participate in medical decisions by a court of law, no physician, nurse or any other medical staff has any authority or legal standing to order or compel any patient to do anything. Ultimately, the only one with any real authority is the patient.

I use OK to get permission because, utlimately, it is their choice. Patient autonomy is pretty high on my list of priorities. If they say no, I stop and we explore the objection and the benefits of the action I'm trying to do.

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It's certainly less egregious than listening to someone who is supposed to be a professional pepper a conversation with "ya know" and "like."

Nice article. I personally dislike hearing OK at the end of a sentence. It feels like i am being forced to agree to something I may not be "OK" with.

Specializes in LTC,Hospice/palliative care,acute care.

This topic ties in well with the "millenials in the workplace" thread. We nurses want to be taken seriously and have worked for years to be treated as professionals and most of us don't have much patience with this type of behavior. You are not "hanging with friends" when you are interacting with patients ,peers, physicians. We all need to remember that.

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I think the real issue is this whole "the patient is always right" thing. A lot of people end up questioning everything we do because they heard or read something online....if they knew what was good for them, they wouldn't be in the hospital. Taking "okay" out of the vernacular helps us sound more sure.

Specializes in PACU, presurgical testing.

I wonder if this is a stylistic/cultural/generational thing. I have noticed the "OK" ending not just in healthcare but all over the place, and it always sounds like the person is unsure or "needs" approval. I'm sure that most people aren't saying it for that reason, but I perceive it that way in other arenas and see no reason that it's different when nurses do it. I agree that it is sort of a habit, but it is worth thinking of other ways (as OP has done) to get the patient on board with what we are telling them.

That said, I have to disagree with assuming that a patient's nod means that he/she understands (I don't remember where in the thread I saw that, and I have NO luck quoting! Sorry!). Patients who are overwhelmed or HOH or for whom English is a second language may resort to this when we speak too quickly, too quietly, or too much. I ask open-ended questions when I want to gauge understanding, but I'm sure I've said OK this way and will try not to do it anymore unless it is really appropriate!

wow. thanks for that,i honestly say OK just to be kind. But I do hate it when patients are called sweetie, honey or baby. I feel for my patients not being in control of anything during their stay and I want them to have as much autonomy as possible.

I broadly agree with you.

However, 'okay' is really just lazy speech. It can also come across as condescending. It's meant to be friendly and informal but it could be either 'I'm uncertain about this so let's just go with it' or 'I'm the nurse and this is how it's going to be'.

Have the confidence to professionalise the way we speak - and to say exactly what we mean.

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Never thought about this. Excellent.