New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand

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Hi everyone, please help me.

I graduated last march 2007 here in the Philippines and I have my license here already.

Because of oversupply of nurses here, it's too difficult to find a job.

That's why I'm looking forward to working in Australia or New Zealand.

However, I'm confused. Esp about Australia.

I already have my bachelors degree here.

When I go there in Aus to work as RN, must I take a diploma in nursing first? can I work while studying?

After obtaining my diploma there, am I already a registered nurse?

Thank you!

Exactly, that's what I thought so too. :D

Have you guys ever tried consulting with migration agencies to... say, like Canada? They have different categories and each with corresponding pts. More years of experience mean more points. The same goes for AU's general skilled migration. Aside from your experience, a lot more is assessed. But after you've been assessed and approved you'll be granted not a working or student visa but an IMMIGRANT or PR status agad. Not only nurses can go through this route. All other occupations can. But I think majority of us on this thread cannot go through that route not unless we have years of experience as an RN here in the Philippines.

Someone told me that Enrolled Nurses in AU are like LVNs or PNs in the States. Anybody out there who has more info on ENs?

Godbless us guys! Hope we can all be Aussies in the near future!

EN is being phased-out in Australia. The course is conducted under TAFE in Qld for 18 months (full time). Students enrolled in this program will come out as EENs after graduation. EENs hold medication endorsement allowing them to administer drugs under the supervision of a RN. You are correct that EN is equivalent to LPN/LVN in the US and Canada.

Hey Chocokat,

Maybe you should email them and see if they posted your results. =) No worries ok. I know you will get it soon.

About the EN. I think the CAS - Exam covers the EN registration as well since the booklet in the cqu website does specify that its for RN and EN. Maybe that is how they get registered?

Hi Kit25, what is a subclass 175 does that mean they are only allowed to work and never gain residency ??

Subclass 175 is an independent application for permanent residency. Please check DIACs website for detailed information regarding immigration/migration in Australia.

errrr.... whats the pathway then for those who were assessed as EN?

Take CAS then what?:confused::confused::confused::confused:

errrr.... whats the pathway then for those who were assessed as EN?

Take CAS then what?:confused::confused::confused::confused:

I do not want to discourage but opportunities for ENs in Australia are somewhat limited and competitive as this has been designed to employ citizens and residents with vocational qualifications. And as I've said, they are phasing-out EN to EEN. The scope of practice is different as EENs hold medication endorsement.

With regard to this

"There is no nominated occupation with corresponding ASCO code under the Skilled Occupation List for Enrolled Nurse, Registered Nurse (Division 2) Licensed Practical Nurse or Nurse Assistant. Nurses who have these qualifications are not able to apply for assessment of their skills under General Skilled Migration."

Does this mean that the EN status cant migrate based on the general migration scheme but can instead go and like what ryan09 said do the bridging program find work then petition his family? I thought the Enrolled nurse was a Division 2 Nurse ..what are the other classifications for them ? I dont get this?

Can anyone explain this? Do they follow the same bridging program as the RNs?

RNs in Australia are educated in the university for 3 years and hold a Bachelor of Nursing (BN) degree. ENs are educated in a vocational school for 18 months. Most states are phasing-out the EN curriculum and are now implementing the EEN to educate and allow nurses educated in vocational schools to administer medication. EN/EEN is the same as Division 2 nurse as they are called in Victoria. Division 1 nurses are the same as RNs.

RNs do not follow the same bridging program as ENs as they have different scope of practice. RNs hold greater independence, accountability and responsibility over patients compared to ENs.

Hi Kit

Thanks for all the info, last I remember you were off to Australia. Are in Australia registered already? If so, is the national registration being felt or talked about there ?

RNs in Australia are educated in the university for 3 years and hold a Bachelor of Nursing (BN) degree. ENs are educated in a vocational school for 18 months. Most states are phasing-out the EN curriculum and are now implementing the EEN to educate and allow nurses educated in vocational schools to administer medication. EN/EEN is the same as Division 2 nurse as they are called in Victoria. Division 1 nurses are the same as RNs.

RNs do not follow the same bridging program as ENs as they have different scope of practice. RNs hold greater independence, accountability and responsibility over patients compared to ENs.

hi, i just want to make a little bit of corrections :D

EN program will take up to 1 year. it depends upon the course provider. some offer it for 1 and a half years and some institutions offer it for just one year.

Before, an EN (Enrolled Nurse) or a Div.2 nurse is not allowed to administer medications but because of the scarcity of div.1 nurses (nurses who finished a Bachelor's Degree in nursing), they now allow div.2 nurses to administer drugs provided they finish a medication administration course, after completing this course they will be eligible for an endorsement and then be called Div.2 Nurse Medication Endorsed...the NBV is now (i think) in the final stage of letting the Div.2 nurses to administer IV drugs...

but i think they arent phasing out the EN nurse course, instead they will just revise the curriculum and incorporate the medication administration course into the curriculum.

i just dont know if the overseas nurses whose qualifications has been assessed as EN will be allowed to administer medication, or they will need to take up the med.admin course for them to be able to administer drugs, they should clarify it with the NBV.

hi guys! im new here. I'm planning to apply as a nurse in Victoria. The problem is im not so sure of the processing in PRC. Should I let my Board certificate and PRC ID authenticated?That means I have to go to DFA also to have it ribboned and then attach it along with my certificate of good standing? Or just have it notarized and then inform the officer to attach it. Please help. Thanks

hi, i just want to make a little bit of corrections :D

EN program will take up to 1 year. it depends upon the course provider. some offer it for 1 and a half years and some institutions offer it for just one year.

Before, an EN (Enrolled Nurse) or a Div.2 nurse is not allowed to administer medications but because of the scarcity of div.1 nurses (nurses who finished a Bachelor's Degree in nursing), they now allow div.2 nurses to administer drugs provided they finish a medication administration course, after completing this course they will be eligible for an endorsement and then be called Div.2 Nurse Medication Endorsed...the NBV is now (i think) in the final stage of letting the Div.2 nurses to administer IV drugs...

but i think they arent phasing out the EN nurse course, instead they will just revise the curriculum and incorporate the medication administration course into the curriculum.

i just dont know if the overseas nurses whose qualifications has been assessed as EN will be allowed to administer medication, or they will need to take up the med.admin course for them to be able to administer drugs, they should clarify it with the NBV.

I wonder why people have to ask for answers to questions they already have their own answers to :beercuphe

hi guys! im new here. I'm planning to apply as a nurse in Victoria. The problem is im not so sure of the processing in PRC. Should I let my Board certificate and PRC ID authenticated?That means I have to go to DFA also to have it ribboned and then attach it along with my certificate of good standing? Or just have it notarized and then inform the officer to attach it. Please help. Thanks

Stick to the instructions in the application packet. Do not make things complicated. I believe the red ribbon is required in NZ but not in Au.

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Guys,

is the NBI the same with police clearance? can i just submit the NBI clearance?

Help guys,

Just like to make some clarifications, if my assumptions are correct. This is for NBV.

Verification of Registration- I need to go to PRC and ask them to send it to NBV, right?

Certificate of Initial Registration- Is this the PRC ID or the Board Certificate? Do I need to ask PRC also to send this to NBV together with the Verification of Registration? Or I will be the one to send it to the NBV?

thanks!

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