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(this is long!... sorry, but it has been a long process)
So... I passed a week ago! WOoooHooOOooOo. I'm thrilled and at the same time really exhausted from the whole thing. Passing the second time around does not give you that thrill of insanity that most people seem to possess when they pass the first time. Instead, passing the second time seems to slow your heart rate and you sort of freeze mid breath. For me not passing the first time forced me to get a non nursing related job to help pay the bills stat. I totally felt like I threw myself under the buss. Real life is stressful, and to not pass made it more complicated. Then I had to also calm my brain and rebuild my confidence slowly.
Basically I graduated at the top of my class. My nursing degree is my second, and I've become an experienced student and learner. I took an ATI predictor exam at the end of school without studying or preparing and got a 79% probability of passing - not good not terrible. My instructors recommended that I take it again after reviewing and the second time around I got an 88% probability of passing. (They wanted a 90-95% for us) I thought -- hey, that's pretty good! So... I studied Saunders and thought that I'd be set. I took the exam, and I quickly realized that there were so many good answers to chose from. After a while I started to panic because I was getting to 200 questions. What the heck!? So the exam stopped, and I had a feeling that I had not passed. I went home and slept that whole day.
I found out I didn't pass 2 days later, and freaked out about money. I was suppose to start out doing flu shots for the season, and wasn't able to do so. I spent a week looking to get a job, found a job, started working, and it was then that I started to really think -- ok, gotta take this exam AGAIN. I worked 20ish hours a week and made my days pretty clear to have whole blocks of time to study. My state gives me 45 days to retake. I went to Kaplan and signed up for it and started right away.
My good whole hearted advice:
Saunders is a great review tool. Terrible for actually taking questions and becoming a good test taker. It does not emphasize any one particular thing more than another. For example, tuberculosis is like the golden standard of infectious diseases to learn about for the NCLEX. In my opinion so is lime disease and diabetes (a chronic disease). Mosby's is short on all topics and to the point. It gives you what you need... but gives every topic equal importance. You feel EVERYTHING is of importance, and really... knowing HOW to take the exam is the important thing. Study smart and learn the things that are frequently tested on and seen on the nclex. Mosby's end of the chapter questions are NOT good practice for the nclex. I know Suzi recommends it, but I think it's weak sauce and totally focusing on low level questions. Sure, it's great to know if you know the material... but you want to become a PRO at the higher level questions. This is how I passed the nclex. My knowledge base was adequate... it was knowing how to answer the questions that enabled me to PASS.
ATI... sigh. Well, they have a good quickie review book I was given at school. I read it twice and I think it helped square away some psych and peds stuff for me. It's organized so you can see definitions easily. When things are organized they stick in my head better for some reason. The ATI exam had good application critical thinking questions, but AGAIN NO help on how to answer questions or tackle questions you don't know (because face it... there will be lots of questions you don't know for sure).
KAPLAN... my favorite!! I wish I had listened to my friends in school and signed up for it in the beginning. I didn't because I wanted to save money and do it without help. I felt capable. Instead, I ended up losing more money by not passing the exam the first time. Really, just do it. It will make life easier. Kaplan has videos online that you can watch (which I recommend over the inclass option because online they were loaded with helpful information... everything you'll need to know). This is a great option for all types of learners: visual, reading, auditory, writers, yada yada. I did pretty much everything I was suppose to with Kaplan.
The structure:
you read, study, watch videos a lot
then you start taking questions. these tests are called trainers. there are 7 trainers. trainers 1-4 are like pretend nclex, they are the easy level questions. kaplan wants you to do well enough on those to assess you knowledge base. then trainers 5-7 are hardcore and like the real thing. i never had an exact question from kaplan that was on nclex, but veryyy veryyy similar. kaplan has videos that give you questions, pause the video, answer the question how you would, then start the video again and listen to the lady's explanation. sometimes i made faces at the screen and got fustrated, but i learned.
I also took the readiness exam. I remember that on trainer 6 and the readiness exam my score was consistently at a 61%. Kaplan wants a 65%, but who cares. I knew I was ready (with a slightly healthy hesitation).
One area I was super paranoid about for the exam was medications. I'm terrible with them because I basically don't want to memorize them. I'm stubborn. haha. However, after all the questions and all the reading I basically knew a good handful of them by sight. I knew what a good medication answer looked like, and what a bad one probably was.
Kaplan in addition has a question bank. This allows you to question like crazy in a section you are weak. Safety infection seemed to always be sorta low for me. I usually scored low on these tests, like any where from a 40%-70%. It sorta was like, depressing taking those qbank questions, but turned out they were helpful.
So overall, Kaplan totally gave me to mojo to take the exam again. I felt that it prepared me perfectly.
The actual exam 1st time around:
I answered questions too fast!
I didn't think about stuff.
I hardly used my writing board.
I guessed a lot - like A LOT!
I didn't take breaks.
I was tired and lost energy.
The actual exam 2nd time around:
I answered questions slowly! My strategy was to use all my time and pass before 200. If I got to 200 I'd just push through hard.
I thought about every answer choice.
I assessed and implemented. I reduced my choices, rather than picked the correct answer off the bat.
I took up 6 writing boards. My hand was always going up. I wrote out option A B C D and cross out each one.
I felt that guessing was still involved, but I felt I had more direction and skill in it this time around.
I took many breaks. Especially when I was on a hard question and found myself not able to concentrate.
I drank caffeine. (it makes you pee, but I focused well)
I was not as tired and drank gatorade during breaks to replenish myself.
Things to know:
Know you labs. Make flashcards and memorize them. If you think about it, this is simple memorization. These questions on the exam are freebies. Just memorize and you will get free answers!
Become a pro at prioritization. Seriously, these are freebe questions too once you get good at them. Kaplan makes this easy to figure out. Soon you'll be like... DUH, when you see the answer.
The same goes for assignment questions. With enough pratice and know how you'll be able to answer how to assign an LPN or RN to which patient. These questions are popular, and they should be freebes for you as well.
You will realize it is MUCH EASIER to answer hard level questions then it is to answer easy level questions. Contradictory right? Well... easy level questions want you to give recall information. There is so much to know, there is no way we can know it all! Harder level questions actually allow you to use your reasoning and thinking skills. There is no limit on your ability to think and be critical. You will like taking trainers 5-7 much more than trainers 1-4.
If you're curious:
My exam stopped I believe it was around 90 something. My last two questions were insanely easy easy. That made me nervous, but don't over think this exam. It's an insane exam. I got no math questions. I got a few meds here and there. Couple multiple answer questions.
Okay!
I think that is all. Hope this made sense and will help at least one soul out there.
OHHHH -- uhh, I will say something else. I think it's totally great you guys are religious n stuff, but I believe it sort of doesn't work here. I don't believe God allowed me to pass or fail, as much as I believe God allows some to go hungry or catch the flu. This is the real world and your destiny is fallen by actions. If you study and prepare you will pass. If you don't know how to take the exam you wont pass. Cause and effect relationship. If you are square with yourself on that fact today you will only better your effort to pass the exam and not leave it to destiny or fate. You can pass this exam with the brain power and good hard working skills you possess! You can do it! :) Heck, getting into nursing school was the hard part remember?
Good luck to everyone, and remember if you don't pass... life goes on. And again in a few short months you will resume back on track right where you left off.
:)
I have a question for the OP...do think that the ATI books messed you up and you would have been better off not studying them at all and just sticking with other review materials?Graduates of our program (we use ATI) have complained that the ATI material was horrible and to "not even look at it" and stick with Saunders/Kaplan, etc
What is your take on that?
yes, this is a great question!... my fiance and i have talked about this a lot actually. i feel that my school probably wanted to do the right thing for us and provide us something for the nclex. i would of NEVER taken the nclex exam had I actually taken a proper nclex practice exam (for example, a pretest nclex with kaplan) that gave me a low probability of passing. i felt that this was what my ATI exam probably was telling me -- but the fact that I was sooo close to their goal the second time around, and i continued to study after it made me feel ready to take it. yet, when i took the real thing i had never seen those type of questions before in my life!! i felt sort changed and given little skill in actually taking nclex style questions. the ATI exam felt like half easy questions with half hard questions. that's not an adequate exam to tell someone they are ready to take a computer adaptive exam that relies on you passing above the standard consistently.
it is true that 80% of first time takers pass... but the explanation for why the other 20% pass must be more than just, "not competent."
my feelings about the nclex is i learned a lot studying for them the second time around. things that i had not committed to memory in school, i was forced to when studying for this. does this make me a better nurse? yes and no.
sorry, this reply is sorta choppy and probably doesn't make too much sense.
to answer your question:
I believe Saunder's end of the chapter questions decieved me in thinking those questions were questions I would have to pass on the exam. (true, they might be the lower level questions... but you have to answer correctly the hard level questions to pass, not easy level questions).
I believed my ATI predictor exam gave me a false reassurance about my confidence and need to study more.
I do not believe studying several material types messed me up exactly. All the REVIEW material is good with Saunders and ATI... but again, they treat everything with equal importance. They give tuberculosis the same importance as a section on bladder infections, when tuberculosis is tested on all the time!! Kaplan instead took the material and said... HEY, KNOW TUBERCULOSIS and... here's a few tid bits on bladder infections just in case. That is what separates the material apart. Study smart for a huge exam like this.
wow! this is inspiring.. i just failed my 1st take on nclex and im now considering kaplan.. i used saunders as my review material.. unfortunately it didn't quite cut it.. its not that its bad material or anyting.. i actually learned a lot from saunders! yup! read and studied the whole book, used the cd.. great content! but when i sat for my nclex, i was getting these questions that i felt that i didnt know how to answer and confused me alot.. i think this is one of the main reason on why i failed.. i think i need to work on my test taking strategies and on how to answer smart.. and from what i have read from the threads here, kaplan is really good at diong just that..!
Fabulous advice deliteful! ...so well written; great overview ~ helpful to MORE than one soul. You should broadcast it to all the schools of nursing on the last week in class. I too found as I studied Kaplan that the answer lies in teaching yourself how to "think like a nurse" and the instructors at Kaplan online do it so well. Mentoring and modeling is what this career is about and Kaplan certainly teaches you how to do that! Now we'll see if it worked for me today ~! My NCLEX shut off at 79. Going into it I felt weak on the content, just ok with my memorized lab values, and stronger on the critical thinking (ala Kaplan). I really focused down on the Readiness exam - a quick review of the content in the book itself, Trainer questions 1-7, and I re-watched the test taking strategy videos over and over again using that decision tree ad nauseum. It IS about how to answer more of the critical thinking/application questions. Touche and Congratulations Girlfriend~!!
When you say the questions confused you, what do you mean? Were they select all that apply, prioritize? I am studying the Saunders book, and I was just wondering what is different on the NCLEX that is the most confusing?
i was confused a lot with the prioritization questions.. i had tons of them when i sat for my nclex.. like 60% are prioritization.. failed at 265.. i think one factor is i lacked on test taking strategies.. i was ok on content.. cause i read, studied, answered all the questions on the saunders book (including cd).. and saunders has really good content.. but in order to slay the beast, u'll need content + strategy..
(this is long!... sorry, but it has been a long process)Become a pro at prioritization. Seriously, these are freebe questions too once you get good at them. Kaplan makes this easy to figure out. Soon you'll be like... DUH, when you see the answer.
i failed my 1st take at 265.. i had like 60ish% prioritization questions.. i wish i knew how to answer them better.. then my whole take on the nclex will be more like a "freebie"...:sniff:
I have to agree with delitful, I took Kaplan inclass and failed 2 times. The third time i requested online class, the thing i liked most is videos and question review by ladies of kaplan they teach u strategies to answer. I remember 2 days before my exam i did the readiness test got 67% and i reviwed the test listening to the ladies of kaplan on how to tackle the question. This exam tests your critical thinking alot, I also used prioritization book by lacharity. Third time was easy!! i knew all along even if i ended up doing 265 I was sure I will pass but luckily i did not take 265 questions. I will recomend kaplan online..it worked for me
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