I am attending a diploma nursing school in Pittsburgh. We are just taking our pre-nursing classes (microbiology, nutrition). We have only had 1 quiz and took our first exam yesterday. We started out with 51 students. We are now down to 41. Is this normal for so many to drop out before it even starts? :uhoh21:
This just concerns me because I could not imagine giving up that quick. Maybe I am just to stubborn to quit.
I see it in my school like the newest fashion style. For example, in my Chemistry class 55 students started the class (16 week course) 3 hour long twice a week.
Anyhow, by the end of the second week we were down to about 45. Subsequently, the numbers fell. Peole could not handle it......it was too difficult, did not like it, were not ready for the intense course, etc. etc....
Bottom line is that only 10 stayed and only 4 passed :stone !!
The farther into the program you go the more that drop out. But then again I am convinced that they "wee" many of the students out so that we maintain a waiting list free program
In my school this is normal. I hear that from other schools as well.
Jessica
HOLY COW!! (does anyone say that anymore lol) 4 out of 55 thats insane...congrats if you passed (im assuming you were one of the 4)...geez..i took chem 5 years ago in my freshman year...we had like 125 students (even though small private school) but we didnt have that many drop..wow thats crazy.
I would not agree with you on that one. What you are saying is not the best approach to anatomy. Can you say you know stuff after the class has ended? The only goal I had in that class is to learn and understand how things work, and for me, anatomy is very logical. Yes, high grades are rewarding but it is the feeling that you have when you hear someone talking about muscles and you say to yourself: hey I know that!
I should have said what is unfair is you taking up someone else whom is probably more qualified's seat.
:chuckle I agree! I think that about the nursing program. I have heard that more than 1/3 drop the first year. That is why our school makes everyone go through the CNA program first. I guess they figure that they can scare away the wimps by making them wipe butts in the clinicals. LOL!
Specializes in OB, ortho/neuro, home care, office.
Why are so many people failing/dropping anatomy?? It's so easy. Just memorize the material. No real concept or logic to it, just memorize it. I guess I just thought it was easy.
Memorization will not help you in nursing school, actually understanding it will. I would suggest attempting to figure out how each process works, what happens when it works, what happens when it doesn't
This summer I had to take BIO 101 as a pre-req for Anatomy. The professor that I had was the hardest in the Bio department and everyone said "watch, half of your class will drop". Well, after the first test we were down 10, and by the end of the class I think were were down 19. But, what I found out was that, yes the class was a lot of information (especially fo a 10 week course), but that all you needed to do to pass was study, study, study. People gave that lady such a bad reputation when all she really wants is to pass students who actually LEARNED the material. I studied my butt off for that class and got an "A" and I'm happy I did because metabolism, cell structure etc will be covered in A&P I which I'm taking now. I'm glad I took her and didn't give up because she really prepared me and forced me to develop good study habits.
our a&p started out with about 135 and by 3rd quarter we were down to 62, and i know at least 10 people didn't make it through that quarter. It can be rough. I just finished Micro and we lost around a dozen there as well.
Prereqs have a great way of "weeding" people out of the nursing field. Many of the classes are tough and if someone cannot deal with the workload or difficulty of the classes, then they definitely will not make it in nursing school. When I was in school, I saw many, many people drop out of the prereqs for nursing school and even more people drop out of nursing school itself. However, when I went to RN school, we started out with 46 and 38 of us finished the program... so that's not too bad.... Expect to see high drop-out rates.... You can be passionate about becoming a nurse, wanting to help people and "nurse" them back to health, but you also have to have the knowledge to back it up.
Prereqs have a great way of "weeding" people out of the nursing field. Many of the classes are tough and if someone cannot deal with the workload or difficulty of the classes, then they definitely will not make it in nursing school. When I was in school, I saw many, many people drop out of the prereqs for nursing school and even more people drop out of nursing school itself. However, when I went to RN school, we started out with 46 and 38 of us finished the program... so that's not too bad.... Expect to see high drop-out rates.... You can be passionate about becoming a nurse, wanting to help people and "nurse" them back to health, but you also have to have the knowledge to back it up.
This is so true in my school. It is a community college. They do their best to weed out. I think this is because there are a tremendous amount of students that receive finiancial aid. (I don't know)....But it is as though the teachers are on a mission.....Some have stated how tired they are of students not reading, or not being prepared, it is as though alot of the kids come to school for the social setting of meeting their friends and the such...(heck, my own step son was going to the same school as me, and I would catch him skipping class all the time-he eventually dropped-he is so lost, he is 20 and is just at a point of not wanting to grow up-but this is another can of worms)
I remember my teacher for A/P 1-lab say to us, 40% of you (out of a class of 48) won't make it to mid term. The average test score of the first exam is 42%, and the average grade for the department as a whole is a D. We finished with 5 people at the end of the class. However, I will have to say that some students are not prepared for what it takes to pass these classes. (being an older person myself, 37.... I take what I am doing seriously) I see so many "kids" skip class & thinking they don't have to study, they cheat using their cell phones in class-I think to myself, what is the point? When it comes down to it, in the end, you will have to put up-or shut up (I think that is the saying?) or (put your money where your mouth is?)....anyhow, it all seems to catch up with them sooner than later. I think your comments are on the money- if they can not make it now, they certainly won't make it in nursing school.
During my undergrad, I was pre-med. Our micro class was made up of mostly pre-med and pre-nursing students and the instructor played up the rivalry...it was ugly the amount of smack-talk that went on between the two groups (of course I did not engage in this activity...uh...yeah).
It was amazing how many students dropped the class. It was more amazing how many pre- students were taking the class for the 2nd, 3rd, or even 4th time.
In reality, the class was pretty easy. I think stress got to most of the quitters since some of the people that dropped should have been able to easily pass the class. But it doesn't matter what you know if you can't perform under pressure. And yes, I realize that was a double negative.
I have become immune to this type of situation. Every science class I have taken we start with 50 end the class with about 20 and maybe 10 pass
Lots of people are dropping or failing out at my school as well, however even with the people who pass about 2/3 of them are passing with a C or C+ which will not get them into our nursing program, so they either have to retake the class to at least get a B to be competitive more than likely though an A is needed so realistically out of the 135 or so that started A&P with me only around 50 survived all 3 quarters and of that 50 25-30 were C's and may need to retake at least a quarter or 2 to get an A or at least a B. So only around 25 out of the original 135 are in good shape to be competitive for the program out of that class.
GrnHonu99, RN
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HOLY COW!! (does anyone say that anymore lol) 4 out of 55 thats insane...congrats if you passed (im assuming you were one of the 4)...geez..i took chem 5 years ago in my freshman year...we had like 125 students (even though small private school) but we didnt have that many drop..wow thats crazy.