Mandatory flu shots????

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It didn't dawn on me until just right now, don't ask me why, that my choice of NOT getting a flu shot will NOT get me into a nursing program. The director at my school of choice basically stated "it is a requirement that you receive one, however you can sign a declaration that you do not wish to receive one." Then I asked, "would that inhibit my chances of getting into the program?" She replied, "well, the facilities in which we work with it is required due to you working with elderly clients; If you do not wish to get the flu shot perhaps you should look into another career."

*****?? (excuse the language) I have worked in nursing homes, health centers, private duty, home health agencies, visiting nurses association, hospice AND THEY NEVER REQUIRED me to ever receive or even ASKED if I have obtained a flu shot!!! (mid 90's)

So, anyone please tell me my dream of becoming a nurse is already dead because I REFUSE to get a flu shot???!!! seriously??? I am so upset right now!!!

Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).

:roflmao:Of course Bill Gates may just be a whacky time traveler who uses Quantum Physics to go back in time .

Hppy

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Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
Lmao not every nurse believes that vaccines are doing what they are suppose to do. All vaccines can be traced back to bill Gates and planned parenthood .. fact

Please, enlighten us!

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Specializes in Adult Internal Medicine.
The Flu vaccine, Polio Vaccine, Smallpox vaccine etc all predate the birth of Bill Gates

Hppy

This is your truth.

I believe something different.

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Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).
This is your truth.

I believe something different.

The Polio vaccine was created in 1935 and Bill Gates was born in 1955 - again he might be a whacky time traveling villain set out to sterilize third world nations. I you really believe this then I have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.

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The Polio vaccine was created in 1935 and Bill Gates was born in 1955 - again he might be a whacky time traveling villain set out to sterilize third world nations. I you really believe this then I have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.

I think Boston was being sarcastic!;)

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Specializes in Critical Care.
The Flu vaccine, Polio Vaccine, Smallpox vaccine etc all predate the birth of Bill Gates

Hppy

Technically, being the antichrist he wasn't "born" in 1955, he took human form in 1955.

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Is the flu patch better or the flu nasal drops or the vaccine ? Has anyone gotten the flu patch ?

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Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.
Is the flu patch better or the flu nasal drops or the vaccine ? Has anyone gotten the flu patch ?

The only way to get the flu patch is to enroll in the clinical trial. Phase 1 was recently completed so it's at least 5-10 years before the patch is available.

Researchers develop microneedle patch for flu vaccination | National Institutes of Health (NIH)

Nasal & standard shot are relatively similar unless you are in a contraindicated group such as those who have asthma

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And not one thought for your patients or coworkers...

The shots are not only risky but often not effective. Please research this issue and the political issues attached to it.

Give it a fair hearing and don't assume that the shots are innocuous and well-intended.

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It didn't dawn on me until just right now, don't ask me why, that my choice of NOT getting a flu shot will NOT get me into a nursing program. The director at my school of choice basically stated "it is a requirement that you receive one, however you can sign a declaration that you do not wish to receive one." Then I asked, "would that inhibit my chances of getting into the program?" She replied, "well, the facilities in which we work with it is required due to you working with elderly clients; If you do not wish to get the flu shot perhaps you should look into another career."

*****?? (excuse the language) I have worked in nursing homes, health centers, private duty, home health agencies, visiting nurses association, hospice AND THEY NEVER REQUIRED me to ever receive or even ASKED if I have obtained a flu shot!!! (mid 90's)

So, anyone please tell me my dream of becoming a nurse is already dead because I REFUSE to get a flu shot???!!! seriously??? I am so upset right now!!!

Go into Health Care Administration or some other business management. It pays better and might not require vaccinations.

Most people don't want to believe or even investigate the dangers of vaccinations or their efficacy. It always amazes me that a flu virus knows to come out into the open every Autumn.

This obstacle might be God's way of guiding you to a better life situation, one that you can't envision right now. Wishing you all the best.

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I'll tell you the main reason why flu shots are now becoming mandatory. Reimbursement. Hospitals are under enormous pressure. Pts that cycle back through the hospital cost billions. A recurrent congestive heart failure pt is a huge thorn in the side of hospitals because it's an endless cycled-disease. So, hospital adopted national standards to help pts live better with the disease. It cost less money and pt have better outcomes. Those of you who are getting BSNs will learn the importance of cost analysis and productivity. Our effect on the healthcare system reaches far beyond the clinical aspect at the bedside. Pts who contract the flu can become deathly ill and they stay a longggggg time. Many hospitals rely on reimbursement from the government to pay for admissions....especially medicare reimbursement. That is why electronic records are now becoming the standard. Hospitals received a huge reimbursement if they switched to EMR's (millions per hospital). It was based on better patient care, etc, etc. If nurses don't get the flu shot and a pt gets sick, it's costs the hospital money...lots of money....thousands a day, on top of the other diseases they have to pay for. And the shot reduces the risk of flu and pneumonia (especially medicare pts). So, if one nurse doesn't want to get a flu shot b/c of personal reasons, that one person is not worth the risk of millions of dollars per hospital per floor. If you had to pick up the bill for a pt who got sick from you, you would get the flu shot on day one of the flu season. New health care laws are basing reimbursement on these standards. A congestive heart failure pt who isn't given CHF education at discharge, or not given standardized meds (ace-inhibitors, diuretics, beta-blockers) will come back to the hospital multiple times. Just occupying a bed in the ICU, on day one, can equal what you will make as an RN in a month. Hospitals that don't meet satisfaction guidelines can even be denied reimbursement. Plus, if a nurse or student doesn't want the flu shot, there are dozens and dozens of others who are chomping at the bit to swoop into that position....and they are more than willing to get the flu shot and donate a kidney. The supply has now out numbered the demand. They can let a nurse go from a position b/c no one is that important. And, no one is worth more than reimbursement. The cost of our health system is broken and every chance must be taken to ensure patient safety and proper health care guidelines. We are one of the many vital positions in the hospital, but our worth does not compare to the safety of our patients. A life cannot be reimbursed, so we must either adapt or move along.

How can a pt's illness be traced to a particular nurse?

Dopes anyone believe in organized resistance, revolutions? Does everyone just think like sheep?

I understand about money being the king, far more important than people, I just understand that change requires someone to stand up to tyranny.

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Specializes in LTC and Pediatrics.

One must remember that each year's creation of the influenza vaccine is based on what influenza strains have been out there as well as what strains seem to be increasing. The vaccine is made, distributed and administered. Now, during influenza season, a new strain, not seen before will show up. The likelihood of someone coming down with the influenza is that the strain they have would be the strain not included in the vaccine.

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