LOUD MOUTHED AMERICANS!!!!

JennieBSN · Mar 28, 2001

Hmmm, Lora, I'd say YOUR post is pretty RUDE and brash.

Robin61970 · Mar 28, 2001

I would have to agree...as i stated in previous posts...this is where Nurses can state how they feel and have others be sympathetic and know what they are going through at that time...and sometimes you need to see all sides whether negative or positive!

pandora · Mar 28, 2001

Just another observation from an English RN. I lived in the US for 2 years and never found Americans to be rude or brash, just different ways of expressing themselves. We can be a bit too rserved and stuffy over here you know. I loved my 2 years in the US and hope to come back there to work one day. I was glad of the hospitality and kindness I received over there when I was so far away from home.

**canoehead, BSN, RN** · Mar 28, 2001

They are just looking for someone to give them a little love and understanding.

Cut a little slack for the socially inebriated.

Trust me, I am a transplanted Canadian in the US.

pickledpepperRN · Mar 28, 2001

Well we do have the right to free speech in our Bill of Rights.

Actually nurses I work with from the UK, Europe, Asia, the Phillipines, and Australia have been bold enough to teach me. They also learn our laws that require RNs to advocate for patients. Some of these nurses are loud, some quietly work for better patient care.

My Grandmother who was born and educated in Glasgow and Edinbourough was a VERY outspoken and assertive person. She was polite while doing this

I love working with and learning from world traveling nurses. Sorry if we Americans seem so argumentative, it bothers me too.

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Jay-Jay, RN · Mar 29, 2001

As my late aunt used to say, "I love a good arg!" The amount of vitrol spewed by some of the posters on this site bothers me, too, BUT I think it is infinitely preferrable to apathy. If more nurses stood up for themselves and their profession, the healthcare system would be much better off for it.

When I was in nursing college here in Ontario, I couldn't believe how passive some of my fellow students were. One of our clinical instructors was being very harsh, cruel and downright insulting and abusive to her students. Yet, when I tried to get a group of students together to go and present our concerns, they all chickened out on me!! Finally, when the year was over, and a number of students had been forced out of the course by this teacher, we had a meeting with the chair of the department. A bit late to be closing the barn door!! It taught me a very important lesson...if I didn't stand up for myself, no one else would.

As for the messageboard, it's the controversial posts that attract all the action. Some people are deliberately confrontational in order to get a response. I don't think this is a bad thing, though I draw the line at insulting someone else.

LORA · Mar 29, 2001

Well Pandora. Thank you for your reply. I am actually a nursing student studying for my degree. So it was rather presumtious of you to call me an RN. As it seems I was also presumtious in saying all Americans are loud mouthed and brash. I had simply read through the postings and felt quite annoyed about the bitching.

Originally posted by pandora:
Just another observation from an English RN. I lived in the US for 2 years and never found Americans to be rude or brash, just different ways of expressing themselves. We can be a bit too rserved and stuffy over here you know. I loved my 2 years in the US and hope to come back there to work one day. I was glad of the hospitality and kindness I received over there when I was so far away from home.

nurs4kids · Mar 30, 2001

Lora, I will attempt not to assume, as perhaps you did, that I know the situation in YOUR country, BUT it'd be wise to know the circumstances prior to verbalizing your opinion (this skill will also be necessary once you begin to practice nursing). I have a good friend who is Canadian, worked in the states for a few years, and is now working in London. She complains that nursing there isn't "nursing". The assignments she's worked there are more like what an aide would do here. She says the nurses are not allowed to do much other than assist the doctors. I will not assume that all of Europe is like this, but it is food for thought. Just as I have not experienced the profession there, you've obviously not experienced it here nor there

LORA · Apr 3, 2001

This kind of attitude is exactly what I'm talking about. Please could you fetch your head which seems to be stuck up your ass!!

and thankyou because I know I will make a good nurse, unlike others who forget they were students also. You are not right about the nurses in my country being slaves to the doctors. Maybe so years ago but not know.

Originally posted by nurs4kids:
Lora, I will attempt not to assume, as perhaps you did, that I know the situation in YOUR country, BUT it'd be wise to know the circumstances prior to verbalizing your opinion (this skill will also be necessary once you begin to practice nursing). I have a good friend who is Canadian, worked in the states for a few years, and is now working in London. She complains that nursing there isn't "nursing". The assignments she's worked there are more like what an aide would do here. She says the nurses are not allowed to do much other than assist the doctors. I will not assume that all of Europe is like this, but it is food for thought. Just as I have not experienced the profession there, you've obviously not experienced it here nor there

JennieBSN · Apr 3, 2001

Originally posted by LORA:
This kind of attitude is exactly what I'm talking about. Please could you fetch your head which seems to be stuck up your ass!!
and thankyou because I know I will make a good nurse, unlike others who forget they were students also. You are not right about the nurses in my country being slaves to the doctors. Maybe so years ago but not know.

Lora, honey, look in the mirror.

Q. · Apr 3, 2001

Lora, let me give you a little clue.

It is hard to interpret someone's true intent through words only. I may have read through Nur4Kids post and AT FIRST be angered, but after re-reading it again, slowly, without defenses, realize she is only trying to reply.

Also, a good clue that she meant no ill-intent is the small smiley face at the end of her post. This usually acts to dispel any assumptions one might make from her post.

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