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  1. pandora

    Why is it...

    I know what you mean. I sometimes stay clear of this board for weeks because I get a bit disheartened at the way things can degenerate into 'them -v- us'. The nurse impersonator thread showed promise at first, but soon got into 'who wears what' (as if it matters!) and who makes most money. It's a pity.
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    Nurse Impersonators

    Jessy, it's a pity you felt that you had to bow out of this thread, but, as you can see from the number of postings and the things nurses have to say - it's a very emotive issue for us. We work very hard too, and it's hardly surprising that we get so peed off and defensive, is it? Nobody ever worries about being politically correct when discussing what nurses do, but we have to be careful all the time not to tread on other people's toes and be seen to devalue their skills. It does concern me that you refer to your work as an "industry". Caring for patients is just that; a 'caring' job. Good luck with your studies.
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    Nurse Impersonators

    Seems to me you've got a working solution in Ontario. So simple really. Maybe we should be doing the same thing over here in England.
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    Nurse Impersonators

    You're right Susy K. The issue is how do people feel about nurse impersonators. I hope that anyone who knowingly allows patients to think they are nurses (when they are not) will think again after reading these postings. If you really want to become a nurse, go to college and become one. It is wrong to lead people to believe you have skills you don't have. You will come unstuck if push comes to shove and a real emergency occurs.
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    Nurse Impersonators

    I agree with what you're saying NRSKarenRN. It's us that take the rap at the end of the day if anything goes wrong. I have the education and experience to make professional decisions about the nursing care I give my patients. That's why I did 4 years at college. I have the knowledge to advise and educate - because I am a qualified nurse. Before I started my nursing degree programme, I spent a few months working as a healthcare assistant in hospital. I know, first hand, that there is a BIG difference between what I did then and what I do now as an RN. I don't undervalue the work of HCAs, but I think they they are deluding themselves if they think it is the same job that I do. I feel very strongly about the way some people try to pass themselves off as nurses. It misleads the public and should be taken more seriously by employers. I would never try to pass myself off as a doctor just because I work in a hospital! In fact, I think I would probably end up in front of a disciplinary board if I did.
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    Nurse Impersonators

    Thanks Stevie B. Have yourself a good, long sleep now. You deserve it.
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    Nurse Impersonators

    Can't help you there Stevie B because I didn't see it, but maybe you can help me. I'm guessing that an MA is a medical assistant. It's a new one on me because I've never heard of this in the UK. What do MAs do? If they have no formal medical qualification how can they justify having a RNs for 'assistants'? Here's a true story that some of you out there may be able to identify with. A couple of years ago I was working in a hospital in the south-east of England (not the one I work in now). I went for my coffee break and ended up sitting next to a health care assistantI barely knew from another ward. She was complaining about the number of post-surgical patients she was having to do vital signs on. She said she had hardly seen an RN all morning (I find that hard to believe on a busy surgical ward!) She was clearly stressed out and upset, so I sat and quietly listened. My sympathy kind of ran out when she said that she was as good as the RNs. She added, "I just haven't got the piece of paper to say that I'm a trained nurse", "I do exactly the same job". I asked her whether she had assessed the patient on admission, prepared the care plan, gave the medications etc., Of course, she hadn't. Not that I think that's all there is to nursing, but we have the knowledge to do these things (and much more), and we take the legal responsibility.
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    Nurse Impersonators

    We have the same problem here. I have often been told by people that they were 'nurses' for years. When you ask what college they went to they get a bit red-faced and admit that they were really health care assistants. It took me four years of hard work to earn my stripes and I do object to the nurse 'impersonators'. These people trivialise our professional status and can give a bad impression of us. I realise that this may sound as if I'm trying to be elitist, but I really don't care. It's time we nurses stood together on this one.
  9. Hi Jenny P. I'm a UK nurse. Yes, we've all heard about the return of Matron to UK hospitals. The title is a bit misleading really because I'm told that Matron used to be an (often) formidable character who ruled, not only the nursing staff, but the whole hospital with a 'rod of iron'. She (it was rarely a 'he') has become something of a comedy character when portrayed in films and on TV. I came into nursing long after the demise of Matron. The proposed 'new' Matrons are being recruited to oversee the cleanliness and smooth running of the wards, rather than be a Dictator over nursing staff. Believe me, if you saw the state of some wards, you would see why we need to put the responsibilty back into the hands of senior nurses. It does not mean that nurses will be doing the cleaning. Like others who have given their opinion, I will clear up my own mess. I will not dust equipment or clean floors etc., I go by this rule; would a doctor, physiotherapist or occupational therapist be asked to do cleaning? No, of course they wouldn't, and I'm just as much a professional as they are. People are paid to do these jobs and I don't see why nurses should 'pick up the slack'.
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    dressing allergies

    Can anyone out there help. One of my patients seems to be allergic to just about every type of dressing we put on her Tessio line. She can't tolerate Tegaderm or Mepore type dressings at all. Has anyone had similar problems and what did you do? Thanks:confused:
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    We get the choice. The pantsuits aren't bad, but the white dresses are so old fashioned.
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    Do you care?

    If you are unhappy about the way this nurse is mentoring you then you should see your Lecture Practitioner about it. This person is supposed to be showing you good practice, and should care about teaching you the RIGHT way! You are obviously aware that she a) should know what drugs she is giving and why, and b) that she shouldn't be crushing enterically coated pills. Have you said this to her? I know it's difficult when you are a student nurse, but now's the time you have to begin to learn to be assertive. I'm sure if you approach it in the right way she will listen. If not, then go to your LP for advice. Good luck!
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    What makes you think men do better? Your view is very narrow-minded. Surely the idea of this bulletin board is so that people can sound off about things. Maybe women just make their point better. Everyone has a right to say what they like. Before I was a nurse I worked in an office and witnessed the most infantile behaviour from men who were cutting each other's throats to get to the top. Some days it felt like working in a kindergarden. So don't be too sanctimonious. Men can be just as bitchy!!!
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    Hardly worth mentioning really Lora, but I didn't actually refer to you as a RN. If you read the reply properly, you will see I called myself an English RN. You do seem to have a very defensive attitude (forgive me if I'm wrong), but you need to temper this a bit before you qualify. There is nothing wrong with being assertive, but you come across as aggressive. You won't get far with your colleagues or the general public with an attitude like that. I don't think it's fair to brand a whole nation as rude and brash as you did? Have you ever been to America? If not, then I suggest you do and then make your judgement. Lighten up dear.
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    Just another observation from an English RN. I lived in the US for 2 years and never found Americans to be rude or brash, just different ways of expressing themselves. We can be a bit too rserved and stuffy over here you know. I loved my 2 years in the US and hope to come back there to work one day. I was glad of the hospitality and kindness I received over there when I was so far away from home.
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    Body Art...

    I don't see why nurses shouldn't be pierced or tattooed. It's our choice. I have both, but my tattoo does not show outside or through my whites (it's on my hip), and I do not wear my ear or nose studs during work, although I could if I wanted to. I think that tattoos should not show, but if they do, they should not be offensive to anyone. I think most of us would have an idea of what would be acceptable to the general public.