Leaving Your Job Due to Mandate

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For those of you who have recognized your employer can terminate you for not taking the COVID vaccine and have decided on or are considering employment elsewhere please share your experiences here. How do you feel about having to make that choice? 

The purpose of this thread is not to condemn those making this decision or debate whether they should vaccinate or not. 

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15 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

I don't know that people really don't care about things like the risk of thromboembolic events related to vaccination, it's that this is indeed a concern and that getting vaccinated is by far the most effective way to reduce your risk of a thromboembolic event given that they are fairly common with a Covid infection.

You're correct that natural immunity offers protection, at least for some period of time following an infection.  But what the overwhelmingly majority of evidence tells us is that it is still inferior to vaccination in terms of reducing transmission potential, severity of subsequent illness, and predictability of duration of protection.  The advantages to vaccine immunity vs natural immunity has become even more pronounced with the delta variant.

I don't really know enough to comment on thrombus formation in an actual infection. There's a lot I don't know. But the politics of this whole thing is reprehensible and that's what I was talking about in the post you quoted. We could have a national, rational discussion as some of us are now. But this is so politicized it's almost impossible. For half, risks simply don't matter. "GET THE JAB OR GO TO A CAMP!" The other half, "screw you! I don't want it AHole!" It doesn't matter if it's a good or bad idea. It matters what side you're on. All the data in the world is irrelevant if it comes from the opposition and that's what this debate is really about. The truth is in the middle. I hate politics.

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52 minutes ago, 10GaugeNeedles said:
1 hour ago, lMCRN said:

 

No I don't actually. I believe that over 600,000 Americans died WITH COVID. That's an important difference. There's too many reports of doctors being pressured to put covid on the death certificate to pretend it's not possible.

The important difference is that your beliefs about covid are wacko aeb the quote above.  That's social media rabbit hole territory right there. 

How embarrassing. 

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10 minutes ago, 10GaugeNeedles said:

This response was sent previously. Not sure who I responded to buy this was my answer to the question.:

"I half disagree with you. The following study says two things to me. 1) disease induced immunity is effective at least 1 year after infection regardless (I repeat, REGARDLESS) of subsequent vaccination and subsequent vaccination increases the potency of natural immunity. 2) nobody under this study got covid one year post infection regardless of vaccination status. 

 

From the study [brackets added by me for emphasis]: "The data suggest that immunity in convalescent [that includes unvaccinated, post infection individuals] individuals will be very long lasting and that convalescent individuals who receive available mRNA vaccines will produce antibodies and memory B cells that should be protective against circulating SARS-CoV-2 variants."

 

So while I agree with you vaccines do enhance the immune response from natural immunity, unvaccinated people were still covid free. Why might that be? Do we actually need that extra boost? That isn't clear to me at this time."

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03696-9

I think natural immunity is likely adequate. However, there's clear evidence to show it is substantially improved with subsequent vaccine. I'd call it "beneficial, but not mandatory." That's my opinion.

This is along the lines of what I presented in another thread I initiated.  I expressed concerns about how effective the vaccines were for the previously infected.  Not that I was against someone doing it, but I could understand why someone would defer if they previously had the infection and after talking to their doctor made an informed decision.  

 

 

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16 minutes ago, jive turkey said:

This is along the lines of what I presented in another thread I initiated.  I expressed concerns about how effective the vaccines were for the previously infected.  Not that I was against someone doing it, but I could understand why someone would defer if they previously had the infection and after talking to their doctor made an informed decision.  

 

 

I completely agree with you

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18 minutes ago, 10GaugeNeedles said:

I completely agree with you

Needle in the haystack on this forum!

People got HOT over that.  

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https://www.CDC.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html

The vaccines are safe and effective.  All eligible adults should vaccinate. 

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4 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

https://www.CDC.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html

The vaccines are safe and effective.  All eligible adults should vaccinate. 

It wasn't safe for these people: "During this time, VAERS received 6,968 reports of death (0.0019%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine."

and that's just the ones reported to VAERS. it's been said only 1% get reported. If that's true, up to 696800 people could have died due to the vaccine. I'm not saying it is. But if you happen to be a lucky one, welp, you're dead from this totally safe vaccine. RISKS AND FREAKING BENEFITS!! Geeze, what is so hard about this?

https://www.CDC.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

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2 minutes ago, 10GaugeNeedles said:

It wasn't safe for these people: "During this time, VAERS received 6,968 reports of death (0.0019%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine."

and that's just the ones reported to VAERS. it's been said only 1% get reported. If that's true, up to 696800 people could have died due to the vaccine. I'm not saying it is. But if you happen to be a lucky one, welp, you're dead from this totally safe vaccine. RISKS AND FREAKING BENEFITS!! Geeze, what is so hard about this?

https://www.CDC.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

But you believe the covid death numbers are inflated.  

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2 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

But you believe the covid death numbers are inflated.  

Doesnt change anything. Who cares what I believe? What matters is what each person believes for themselves. You say "SAFE AND EFFECTIVE! SAFE AND EFFECTIVE! SAFE AND EFFECTIVE! LA LA LA LA LA!" Just stop it already!

The people you trust (ie the government) are admitting a minimum of 6968 people are reported DEAD BECAUSE OF the vaccine. It was clearly NOT safe for those people. Do you understand my point? There ARE risks and each person should make an informed decision. Period.

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On 8/20/2021 at 6:44 PM, SmilingBluEyes said:

Then you should rename and re-address the subject of the thread. It's misleading. And I am not surprised. It's another way to get people into arguing when you purport to want to know how they feel, simply, about being forced out of a job d/t a vaccine mandate.

This is just another thread like the others and could easily be merged.

 

Maybe YOU just mis-understood or misinterpreted the OP. Maybe you could offer the benefit of the doubt from time to time - considering that it sounds like you don't like many threads, posts, or in general, the things that people say around here. 

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2 minutes ago, BeatsPerMinute said:

Maybe YOU just mis-understood or misinterpreted the OP. Maybe you could offer the benefit of the doubt from time to time - considering that it sounds like you don't like many threads, posts, or in general, the things that people say around here. 

I misunderstood nothing. But thank you anyhow.

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