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RaDonda Vaught made at least 10 mistakes in fatal Vanderbilt medication error, prosecutors say

This article outlines details of the prosecution's case. I am curious as to how the defense plans to pin this on the hospital?

I still can't fathom why the Tennessee BON didn't see fit to require at least some reeducation of Ms Vaught!

Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).

I stopped responding to this post a while back because I got tired of the rancor and name calling. My daddy used to say "opinions are like rectums in that everybody has one!" I might add that just because one has an opinion doesn't make it right. My daddy also used to say some people are just "Right Fighters" which means they would rather be right than happy. Or they bite back because they don't like it when people don't think highly of them.

One last quote from my daddy is "You wouldn't worry so much about what people thought of you if you realized how rarely they did."

Hppy

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Your Daddy makes a lot of sense. He sounds like an awesome Dad! Thanks for sharing that hppygr8ful. I feel that way too. Have a Happy Easter everybody!

Specializes in ICU.
On 4/11/2019 at 2:31 PM, Tenebrae said:

Slow down

If you are coming close to making a mistake every day you work, that suggests you are rushing. When its busy its very easy to think "I have to get that done" or when someone is demanding of your time, feeling like you have to be in three different places at once.

Its ok to say to the person demanding something "I need to finish what I am doing, give me X minutes"

On 4/11/2019 at 2:31 PM, Tenebrae said:

Slow down

If you are coming close to making a mistake every day you work, that suggests you are rushing. When its busy its very easy to think "I have to get that done" or when someone is demanding of your time, feeling like you have to be in three different places at once.

Its ok to say to the person demanding something "I need to finish what I am doing, give me X minutes"

I do pass meds carefully, I may have been a little dramatic in saying "I come close every day" (but then you have to define what that means) I was pointing out the multiple warnings and pop up boxes most of us face make you immune to reading them, I have to wonder if any actual floor nurses were asked for their input

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Specializes in Psych, Corrections, Med-Surg, Ambulatory.
On 4/16/2019 at 10:04 AM, CommunityRNBSN said:

When I read this, I went “Hey! Ouch!” until I realized that you are unfortunately right. We have to buddy-system administering insulin because there are a lot of sloppy nurses. The doctors don’t get a buddy to sign their insulin prescription— we just have faith that they are checking carefully.

No we don't. The pharmacist is the second pair of eyeballs. And in a hospital, the nurse is the third pair.

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I am trying to follow this along . and I was just thinking about something . 

There were so many warnings that she ignored and apparently ignored the 5 rights of med admin .  and they say she said she gave 1 mg of the med . so if she was ignoring everything, where did she come up with an instruction in her mind to give 1 mg . was she relying on what she had given in past times of versed?   Where did she come up with an instruction to give 1 mg? 

Apparently the order had not yet been computed to the accumed cart . 

Just asking . 

On 4/6/2019 at 6:58 PM, Wuzzie said:

This very, very much.

Let’s be honest, lord of the flies syndrome runs wild in nursing and here is a perfect example of that. The amount of research and effort posters have shown throwing accelerant on the fire against the nurse is impressive. This was a medication error not a criminal act, isn’t the coverup by the facility worse than the mistake (s) because their act was “intentional” and no oversight to remediate or remove an incompetent employee. I have for years let nurse managers know about real concerns in about the competence of certain nurses only to be told beggars can’t be choosers or it’s a warm body etc. Who hasn’t been in charge in ICU basing staffing on pt safety.  I feel  lack of action by BON is wrong and appalling showing their “mistake” and incompetence, their job IS to protect the public. Shows systemic greed, knowingly incompetent management based on money not quality safe healthcare. And this is the 2008 equivalent of banking/real estate for hospitals. their profit margins have never been more precarious. 

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On 4/11/2019 at 5:31 PM, Tenebrae said:

Slow down

If you are coming close to making a mistake every day you work, that suggests you are rushing. When its busy its very easy to think "I have to get that done" or when someone is demanding of your time, feeling like you have to be in three different places at once.

Its OK to say to the person demanding something "I need to finish what I am doing, give me X minutes"

Do you work currently inpatient? I feel you may not have a current understanding of the daily goings on not about demanding patients really.

1 hour ago, lMCRN said:

Let’s be honest, lord of the flies syndrome runs wild in nursing and here is a perfect example of that. The amount of research and effort posters have shown throwing accelerant on the fire against the nurse is impressive. This was a medication error not a criminal act, isn’t the coverup by the facility worse than the mistake (s) because their act was “intentional” and no oversight to remediate or remove an incompetent employee.  

That’s more than a bit dramatic. Wanting more information before coming to a judgement is not wrong. 5 minutes of research to get that information is what we do as nurses.  Many medication errors have been discussed on this site with a great deal of support provided (by myself and others) and discussions on system issues ensuing. I asked you to read the reports so you would have the same access to the totality of the egregiously bad nursing judgment demonstrated by Radonda as you, by your own admission, knew little about the case. This wasn’t a simple medication error. This was negligence that resulted in another human being dying. We cannot stay true to the inherent responsibility of being a nurse while at the same time whitewashing over the egregiously awful behavior of another. What Vanderbilt did after the fact was just as wrong but it is a separate issue and did not contribute to the death of Charlene Murphey. To imply that I am some sort of murderous, savage because of my assessment of the situation is just gross. 

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54 minutes ago, Wuzzie said:

That’s more than a bit dramatic. 

I hear you and acknowledge your opinion and feeling like you were attacked personally. Let’s just agree to disagree. Some threads digress into two or three people responding endlessly sucking out the oxygen of the original post and I responded to you but was speaking to the group as a whole. Thank you.

42 minutes ago, lMCRN said:

Some threads digress into two or three people responding endlessly sucking out the oxygen of the original post 

It’s unfortunate you feel this way. I enjoy discussions on discussion forums. That’s their whole purpose of existing no?  While you may feel differently about mine I do not view your participation as oxygen sucking. 
 

I am curious to know though, did you read the reports I suggested? 

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Specializes in ER.

Quote from press release. This woman spouted platitudes in an interview I viewed about how she loved nursing,  and cared so much for her patients. But this quote from her is very telling.

I still maintain that, if the Tennessee Board of Nursing was doing its job to protect the public, and swiftly moved to discipline Ms Vaught,  this wouldn't have been escalated to the DA's office for criminal proceedings. 

In my opinion,  Boards of Nursing are by and large antiquated bodies that harken from a bygone era when woman were treated like children and the postal service used horse-drawn delivery systems. 

Why does it take a year to investigate a nurse who may be a danger to patients? Why can't they tell the difference between a true sentinel event and a minor charting discrepancy? Why do they treat someone who took her sister's Vicodin for a migraine the same as someone stealing Dilaudid from the Pyxus and shooting up in the bathroom at work?

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Before a verdict was reached, RaDonda Vaught spoke with News 2 and shared her thoughts on the District Attorney’s Office in Davidson County stating, “It has taken three of them, and a bunch of lies, to do their job and that’s a reflection of them and not me.”

 

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1 hour ago, Wuzzie said:

It’s unfortunate you feel this way. I enjoy discussions on discussion forums.  

I hear you and my point is this you and I disagree, sometimes posters who disagree can sort of takeover the post not saying that is happening here just would like to respectfully bow out agreeing to disagree. Thanks  

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