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Things seem to be unfolding rather quickly. Former White House aides and advisors are scrambling to cover themselves as they receive subpoenas to appear and produce documents.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/12/03/clark-eastman-fifth-amendment/
It’s rare when lawyers — as opposed to their clients — take the Fifth Amendment. But Jeffrey Clark, the former Justice Department lawyer who reportedly tried to help Donald Trump overturn the 2020 presidential election, is now claiming the privilege against self-incrimination to avoid testifying before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. He has just been joined in that posture by one of Trump’s main outside legal advisers, John Eastman.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/08/politics/mark-meadows-lawsuit/index.html
The lawsuit comes after the committee signaled it would pursue a criminal contempt referral against Meadows because of his refusal to sit for a deposition in the investigation into the Capitol riot. Meadows alleges that the subpoenas are "overly broad and unduly burdensome," while claiming that the committee "lacks lawful authority to seek and to obtain" the information requested.
And apparently Mark Meadows had a power point outlining how to overturn election results.
https://www.newsweek.com/mark-meadows-powerpoint-January-election-results-trump-1658076
The 38-page presentation, entitled "Election Fraud, Foreign Interference & Options for 6 Jan," is dated one day before the Capitol riot. It's believed to have been submitted by Meadows after he was subpoenaed by the panel in connection with the insurrection.
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48 minutes ago, Justlookingfornow said:You know like how it doesn't make sense to spend copious amounts of time and money making allegations that will never bring criminal charges for the worst thing since 9/11?
You have a source that the secret service agent and the presidential limo driver were invited to testify and refused? They seem more than willing now. How strange?
You should watch the hearings. The invitation to present evidence, documents, or sworn testimony is rather broad and inclusive.
3 minutes ago, Justlookingfornow said:Ot doesn't matter what side effects may occure with steroids. May occure. Not everyone experiences side effects.
You do not know the dose, the frequency or duration of the said maybe steroid prescription.
You made it up to give credibility to the allegations of violence.
So are you now conceding that Trump's medical team listed steroids as a portion of his pharmaceutical regime when he had covid?
I wonder, as a nurse would you expect that the medical team utilized the standard dosing for treatment of acute viral pneumonia when they treated the president?
1 minute ago, Justlookingfornow said:I did. There was no mention of steroid rage.
But they did issue a broad invitation for evidence and sworn testimony... which was your question. Nice try to spin though.
47 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:So are you now conceding that Trump's medical team listed steroids as a portion of his pharmaceutical regime when he had covid?
I wonder, as a nurse would you expect that the medical team utilized the standard dosing for treatment of acute viral pneumonia when they treated the president?
But they did issue a broad invitation for evidence and sworn testimony... which was your question. Nice try to spin though.
What does it matter if they listed his medication regime when he had covid? Did they release his side effects too? You came up with a ridiculous argument to make it more likely that Trump was acting violently. He may very well have but there is nothing to claim that this was because of you made up steroid theory.
Perhaps his "steroid side effects" made him less responsible for his actions? Now there is a spin!!
I can make up stories too!
2 hours ago, heron said:No … the process of getting the workers in question before the committee is likely to be expensive and would be wasteful if it doesn’t materially change the meaning of all the other evidence presented regarding the genesis of the Jan 6 riot.
You know, like how it doesn’t make sense to do a lot of expensive tests if it’s not going to change the treatment of the patient.
ETA: did you miss the part where she details who asked for pardons? Or her descriptions of the confiscation of weapons on the ellipse? Seems those are pretty explosive details.
Let’s hear these alternative narratives under oath.
Are you serious? They shouldn't testify because of costs? Which, btw would amount to a flight and hotel paid for by the govt.
Maybe those are explosive detail. Or, maybe she doesn't have her facts straight, like her story about what happened the limo.
7 minutes ago, Beerman said:Are you serious? They shouldn't testify because of costs? Which, btw would amount to a flight and hotel paid for by the govt.
Maybe those are explosive detail. Or, maybe she doesn't have her facts straight, like her story about what happened the limo.
Welcome to the Stawman’s Ball! They get thrown out there so frequently that it looks like that’s all you got. Interesting.
Once again you’re misrepresenting what I wrote. I never said they shouldn’t testify, only that the commission might opt against it because of poor cost-effectiveness.
In fact, I wish they would - under oath when lying becomes a felony. But, it costs taxpayer money and probably wouldn’t change the big picture. Not my call.
Tonight, January 6 committee subpoenas Trump White House counsel Pat Cipollone for testimony
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/29/politics/pat-cipollone-January-6-committee-subpoena/index.html
1 hour ago, heron said:Welcome to the Stawman’s Ball! They get thrown out there so frequently that it looks like that’s all you got. Interesting.
Once again you’re misrepresenting what I wrote. I never said they shouldn’t testify, only that the commission might opt against it because of poor cost-effectiveness.
In fact, I wish they would - under oath when lying becomes a felony. But, it costs taxpayer money and probably wouldn’t change the big picture. Not my call.
No, they aren't going to testify because they don't want the credibility of that witness damaged.
Cost effectiveness....rofl
Have a good night.
3 hours ago, Justlookingfornow said:What does it matter if they listed his medication regime when he had covid? Did they release his side effects too? You came up with a ridiculous argument to make it more likely that Trump was acting violently. He may very well have but there is nothing to claim that this was because of you made up steroid theory.
Perhaps his "steroid side effects" made him less responsible for his actions? Now there is a spin!!
I can make up stories too!
It matters because it is not a guess that Trump was given steroids, unless you are suggesting that his medical team lied about that. They don't need to tell me what the side effects of steroids are.
You think it's ridiculous but, honestly that's irrelevant and your thinking is often proven wrong as it was about about later term abortions. You should look it up... Trump's covid treatment.
Yeah... maybe the steroids made Trump irritable and agitated and adversely affected his judgement...or maybe he's just erratic and inappropriately emotional as a baseline.
Yes, we know that you can make things up. You apparently made up a reason to get concerned over termination of viable pregnancies for convenience.
Do you think that Cipollone will cooperate with the committee?
20 minutes ago, Beerman said:No, they aren't going to testify because they don't want the credibility of that witness damaged.
Cost effectiveness....rofl
Have a good night.
This is your guess? Just a guess.
That's the best you have to try to diminish the testimony offered by courageous witnesses? How embarrassing.
39 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:It matters because it is not a guess that Trump was given steroids, unless you are suggesting that his medical team lied about that. They don't need to tell me what the side effects of steroids are.
You think it's ridiculous but, honestly that's irrelevant and your thinking is often proven wrong as it was about about later term abortions. You should look it up... Trump's covid treatment.
Yeah... maybe the steroids made Trump irritable and agitated and adversely affected his judgement...or maybe he's just erratic and inappropriately emotional as a baseline.
Yes, we know that you can make things up. You apparently made up a reason to get concerned over termination of viable pregnancies for convenience.
Do you think that Cipollone will cooperate with the committee?
So you can say with certainty that Trump was acting violent because of dose of steroids? Really? LOL Where did you get this "fact" from?
Do you know when the last dose he took before that day?
You made up something asinine and completly ridiculous. Probably because of your inability to control your feelings for a president you do not like.
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Ot doesn't matter what side effects may occure with steroids. May occure. Not everyone experiences side effects.
You do not know the dose, the frequency or duration of the said maybe steroid prescription.
You made it up to give credibility to the allegations of violence.